War author and correspondent Joseph Galloway (L) and his wife Grace Galloway (R) stand at the Vietnam Memorial wall in in Washington looking at Panel 3 East, and all 305 names of those who fell in the Ia Drang campaign engraved in the wall, in file photo. AFP
Most veterans already know Joe Galloway. He has co-authored a new book which tells of the sacrifices and achievements made by American veterans during and after the Vietnam War. In this article, Dan Southerland talks about this new book, and shares tidbits about Joe and his wife, Gracie.
by Dan Southerland
The book titled They Were Soldiers and written by Joseph L. Galloway and Marvin J. Wolf covers the stories of 47 Americans who served in Vietnam over a period of several decades.
They served as officeholders, government officials, and journalists among other professions.
Fortuitously, the book also includes the profiles of a South Vietnamese refugee who served in the Vietnamese Air Force as a maintenance officer. He made it at the last minute onto one of the last flights out of Saigon in 1975. Two others profiled in the book were the sons of a South Vietnamese soldier and a South Vietnamese marine.
This is important, because I don’t think that enough attention has been paid in American media to the sacrifices made by Vietnamese veterans and their families. The success stories of Vietnamese refugees who made it to the United States is well known, but the sacrifices made by the veterans and their various contributions to American society are not.
As a reporter based in Saigon and then Hong Kong, I covered the Vietnam War on and off for nine years from the mid-1960s up until the fall of Saigon on April 29, 1975 when I boarded one of the last helicopters out of Saigon.
Co-author Joe Galloway is a friend. He and I worked as reporters for United Press International in Vietnam in the mid-1960s.
Joe was already the most famous among us when I arrived in Vietnam in early 1966 because of the role he played in November 1965 covering the first major battle between the U.S. Army and the North Vietnamese. The three-day battle of the Ia Drang Valley took place in Vietnam’s central highlands.
The three-day battle became the basis for a book which Joe co-authored and then for a popular movie in 2002 titled “We Were Soldiers” in which the actor Mel Gibson played the role of Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore, who commanded the U.S. troops in the battle.
Joe earned a Bronze Star for valor for rescuing a badly wounded soldier while under fire during the battle.
In his introduction to “They Were Soldiers,” Marvin J. Wolf explains a key motivation for the publication of the book that he co-authored with Galloway.
Wolf, who currently lives in Asheville, North Carolina, served with the U.S. Army as a combat photographer, reporter, and press chief in Vietnam. He arrived in Vietnam in the summer of 1965 and departed in late November of 1966.
“For decades the patriotism and personal sacrifice of the men and women who fought this war were largely ignored by the American public,” he says.
“More than a few returning soldiers were vilified as baby killers and war criminals, including me…”
“The wounded and the broken among us were shamefully ignored by our countrymen and government,” Wolf said, adding, “Our individual struggles to reintegrate with society were magnified by merciless media attention.”
“For decades a staple character in Hollywood films was the crazed Vietnam veteran…The kindest labeled us as a lost cause.”
Problematic film depictions
Based on research done by Martha Bayles, a scholar at Boston College who studies cultural issues, including Hollywood films, I would agree that this was the case for at least two films released in the late 1970s.
The first was “Rolling Thunder” (1977) and the second was titled “Ninth Configuration” (1979).
As Bayles describes it, in both films veterans were cast as “emotional time bombs just waiting to explode.”
Vets were certainly taking an unfair drubbing.
And it might surprise some readers to know how many Americans served in Vietnam.
According to Marvin Wolf, between 1964 and 1975, some 9.7 million Americans served in uniform, a little less than 10 percent of that male generation. Two-thirds of them were volunteers, and together they comprised what he describes as “the best-educated army that our nation had ever sent to war.”
Some 2,709,918 Americans served in Vietnam—on land, in its waters, or in the air.
More than 58,000 of them were killed.
About a third of them were draftees.
Meanwhile, by 1973, nearly 5,000 women were serving in Vietnam.
The majority were trained nurses, and most of them volunteered to go.
One of the best chapters in the book describes the work of Grace Liem Lim Suan Tzu Galloway, who happens to be the wife of Joe Galloway.

Credit: AFP
Nurse Story
Joe told me recently that marrying Gracie was the best decision that he ever made.
“Doc Gracie is a remarkable dynamo, always buzzing and running,” he said.
A native of Singapore, Grace is quoted in They Were Soldiers as saying that she grew up in Singapore and Southeast Asia, spent some time in Europe, and still has some family in China.
“My family has the distinction of having been kicked out of China twice and Indonesia twice,” she says.
She dreamed of becoming a nurse.
When she looked for nursing work in Saigon, the nuns at the Catholic Relief Service “were the only people who would take me. I was a Catholic and I had a rosary.”
Grace became a nurse’s helper, assisting doctors and nurses to care for a flood of sick and wounded civilians.
In 1971, Grace moved to Richmond, Virginia, where her mother had lived for several years. Based on her experience working with orphans and abandoned children in Vietnam, the YMCA hired her to develop and run a shelter program for battered women and their children, one of the first three such shelters in the United States.
Once her program was rooted in the community, Grace decided to pursue her childhood dream and enrolled in a community college that offered a two-year nursing degree.
For the next several decades Grace worked in hospitals, including the Richmond Veterans Hospital.
Each shift with veterans, she says, “triggered flashbacks, unexplained anger, nightmares, sleepless nights, and sudden weeping bouts.”
‘We are living proof’
She studied for a second master’s degree and a doctorate in public health.
Grace spent a year with the Barnum & Bailey Circus, initially as a nurse and then as a performer, a trapezist. That was followed by a decade traveling the world with Club Med.
In 2012, Grace married a friend of 45 years, Joseph Galloway, whom she had first met in Indonesia.
Now well past retirement age, Grace continues to serve her community as a nurse practitioner Three days a week and one evening a week, “Doc Gracie” sees patients as the principal practitioner at a free clinic in Concord, North Carolina, where she and Joe now live.
The Free Clinic offers free and low-cost care to those too poor to afford health care and yet not poor enough to qualify for the state’s bare-bones Medicare program.
Marvin Wolf hopes that the profiles of those portrayed in the book will show that the veterans who returned from Vietnam “to a nation that turned its back on them” nevertheless “went on with their lives, made further important sacrifices and contributions to their families, to their communities, and to the commonweal.”
“We are living proof, Wolf concludes, “that the Vietnam generation is every bit as worthy of respect and admiration as the generations who preceded us.”
Dan Southerland is RFA’s founding executive editor.
This story originally appeared on the website, Radio Free Asia on 11/11/2020. Here’s the direct link:
A Reporter Looks Back: Vietnam Veterans From 1975 Until 2020 — Radio Free Asia (rfa.org)
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BUT, JOE LEE GALLOWAY’S TRUE FEELING ABOUT THE VIETNAM VETERAN.
Quote Joe Lee Galloway ” Damed if I’d want to go for a walk in the sun with them.”
Quote Joe Lee Galloway “Black GI’s going thru long involved black power
identification rituals.”
Quote Joe Lee Galloway “THE REST ARE JUST COMMITTING SUICIDE.”
poem by Joe Lee Galloway
Here dead we lie
Because we did not choose
To live and shame the land
from which we sprung
Life to be sure
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During the Vietnam War, Hal L. G. Moore was as GREEN ( No Combat ) as most of his troops!
Hal G. Moore did not tell them he did not serve in WW 2.
Hal G. Moore only made it as far as a Replacement Depot in the Philippines.
That he Hal G. Moore had a 14 month combat tour during the Korean War.
NOPE NO COMBAT for Hal G. Moore.
Hal G. Moore Heavy Mortars 12 days, 2,800 yards behind the MLR = no CIB
Hal G. Moore Regimental S-3 a DESK JOB for 6 1/2 months = no CIB
Hal G. Moore K company for 16 days, K company from the 6 FEB 1953 to the 22
FEB 1953, K company was 50 miles to the south and behind the MLR = no CIB
Hal G. Moore Division Assistant G-3 a DESK JOB for 6 1/2 months = no CIB.
FACT: Also the 7th Infantry Division LEFT the MLR at the END of OCT 1952,
the 7th Infantry Division RETURNED to the MLR at the END of FEB 1953.
Hal G. Moore lies to his wife Julie.
Quote Hal G. Moore to his wife,”I’m in COMBAT.”
Actually Hal G. Moore was in FAKE COMBAT
Page 78 of Hal Moore A SOLDIER ONCE AND ALWAYS
As a Company Commander for 16 days, in the Korean War, Hal G. Moore had the
full support of Division during that time.
the Division Commander who personally placed Hal G. Moore in K company, ( to protect Hal G. Moore )
FALSE: Hal G. Moore “K company covered nearly half of the battalion’s Main Line of Resistance.”
FICTION> TO ACCOMMODATE THE LARGE DEFENSIVE AREA, the battalion
augmented Hal G. Moore’s K company with a platoon from L company, as well as a
tank platoon and a section of aircraft artillery.
quote Hal G. Moore ” I’m defending a critical sector.”
The K Company Commander who had K company and the area for 6 months or more and Hal G. Moore replaced him for only 16 days, went back to K company and
life on the MLR after Hal G. Moore went to Division to be the Assistant G-3
Its FAKE COMBAT for Hal G. Moore, orchestrated by the 7 Infantry Division Commander, so Hal G. Moore could get an early promotion to Major!
The 7th Infantry Division Commander showed plethoric favoritism to Hal G. Moore, WHY?
Its FAKE COMBAT for Hal G. Moore, orchestrated by the 7 Infantry Division Commander so Hal G. Moore could get an early promotion to Major!
Hal G. Moore’s early promotion to major was put on hold by a policy of the 7th Division commanding general that stated that no promotion to major would be possible without command of an infantrycompany in combat.
The 7 th Infantry Division Commander, FLAUNTS his own ORDERS!
The division commander “personally” assigned (Hal G.) Moore to an infantry company, K company so that Hal G. Moore could get an early promotion to major and thus later become divisional G-3 Assistant chief-of staff for operations a DESK JOB for 6 1/2 months
No promotion to major would be possible without command of an infantry company in combat.
for Hal G. Moore was in command of combat troops for 16 days, K company Infantry only problem they were stationed at Sindam-NI some 50 miles south and behind the MLR. Hal G. Moore was never in any COMBAT during the Korean WAR.
FAKE COMBAT for Hal G. Moore was in command of combat troops for 16 days, K company Infantry only problem they were stationed at Sindam-NI some 50 miles south and behind the MLR = no face to face contact or personal combat with the enemy.
6 1/2 months as the Division Assistant G-3, a desk job.
FACT: Also the 7th Infantry Division LEFT the MLR at the END of OCT 1952,
the 7th Infantry Division RETURNED to the MLR at the END of FEB 1953.
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Thank you for making people aware of what we went through. Unfortunately for me it made me remember a lot of the horrible things I saw.
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Joe Lee Galloway Plagiarized the works of Ernie Pyle’s sayings, for his interviews and to write We Were Soldiers Once and Young, everyone in We Were Soldiers Once and Young mirror’s Ernie Pyle’s books Brave Men and Here is Your War.
Joe Lee Galloway: I read a collection of Ernie Pyle’s material from World War II when I was a kid, and I thought: “If my generation has a war, this is something I want to do.”
Galloway Out the door I could see there were men on that hill, all lying flat on the ground.
When we landed everyone jumped out and there was silence.
A dead silence.
I looked at the men closest to me and realized that they were dead.
Every single one of them.
Lying flat in shallow little depressions hastily dug.
Some with their arms forward as though holding rifles; but there were no rifles.
Ernie Pyle’s Brave Men, I heard of a high British officer who went over the battlefield just after the action was over, American boys were still lying dead in their foxholes,their rifles still grasped in the firing position in their dead hands.
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IF YOU WANT A GOOD FIGHT…
IF YOU WANT A GOOD FIGHT… UPI Combat Correspondent Joins the Cavalry Text & Photos by Joe Galloway Editor s Note: When SOF first received Robert Oles two-part series on the Plei Me/Ia Drang Valley/Chu Pong Mountain campaign (see Bloody la Drang and Winning One for Gary O wen, SOF, March, April 83), we immediately began searching for an eye-witness account to accompany it
Midmoming of the 15th we got a lull. Air and arty had been making things hot for the PAVN. Or maybe it was rice time. I walked out to the edge of the LZ. A trooper jumped out of a mortar pit about 25 meters away and dashed in my direction, diving beneath a bit of brush. All I could see was two eyeballs under the helmet. Joe Galloway. Are you Joe Galloway from Refugio, Texas? Don t you know me, man? It s Vicente Cantu from Refugio. And so it was. We came from the same little oil and ranching town in south Texas. Graduated from high school in the same year, In the blessed lull we stole five minutes for a class reunion. Joe, this is bad shit. But if I make it I go home in two weeks. I ll be in Refugio for Christmas. He did and he was. While the lull lasted,
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Joe Lee Galloway wont protect his Integrity a journalist’s most important asset .
In a message dated 1/15/2004 3:23:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jgalloway@krwashington.com writes:
like i say russell, if you had anything worth taking i would sue
you for libel and slander and take it all.
but you don’t. only a couple bottles of blue pills which you need to use more regularly.
Russell L. Ross 5/12’2021 as of this date I’m still waiting for Mr Joe Galloway to sue me.
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Joe Lee Galloway viciously, victimize’s the Widows and Children of deceased soldiers, for his own gain.
Joe Lee Galloway did not meet Jimmy D. Nakayama or Clark, after he had met Vincent Cantu,in the
morning, around 7:00- 8:00 a.m. on the 15 Nov 1965 at LZ XRay.
Why because all that morning, Jimmy D. Nakayama and James Clark were in the creek picking up wounded
troops and taking them to the Aid Station,
JIMMY D. NAKAYAMA
From ERNIE’S WAR The best of Ernie Pyle’s World War II Dispatches
From the introduction page xiv
After the Bitterness of Vietnam, its hard to conceive of a war correspondent’s finding such wide spread favor
with both his subjects and his audience, of the reporter, as both observer and proponent .
David Nichols
Joe Galloway is aspiring to be that Correspondent.
Using other peoples works like Ernie Pyle, Bill Mauldin.
The works of Ernie Pyle’s, is Joe Galloway trying to emulate.
It is this one.
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This is the most famous and most widely-reprinted column by Ernie Pyle.
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The Death of Captain Waskow
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AT THE FRONT LINES IN ITALY, January 10, 1944 – In this war I have known a lot of officers who were loved and respected by the soldiers under them. But never have I crossed the trail of any man as beloved as Capt. Henry T. Waskow of Belton, Texas.
Capt. Waskow was a company commander in the 36th Division. He had led his company since long before it left the States. He was very young, only in his middle twenties, but he carried in him a sincerity and gentleness that made people want to be guided by him.
“After my own father, he came next,” a sergeant told me.
“He always looked after us,” a soldier said. “He’d go to bat for us every time.”
“I’ve never knowed him to do anything unfair,” another one said.
I was at the foot of the mule trail the night they brought Capt. Waskow’s body down. The moon was nearly full at the time, and you could see far up the trail, and even part way across the valley below. Soldiers made shadows in the moonlight as they walked.
Dead men had been coming down the mountain all evening, lashed onto the backs of mules. They came lying belly-down across the wooden pack-saddles, their heads hanging down on the left side of the mule, their stiffened legs sticking out awkwardly from the other side, bobbing up and down as the mule walked.
The Italian mule-skinners were afraid to walk beside dead men, so Americans had to lead the mules down that night. Even the Americans were reluctant to unlash and lift off the bodies at the bottom, so an officer had to do it himself, and ask others to help.
The first one came early in the morning. They slid him down from the mule and stood him on his feet for a moment, while they got a new grip. In the half light he might have been merely a sick man standing there, leaning on the others. Then they laid him on the ground in the shadow of the low stone wall alongside the road.
I don’t know who that first one was. You feel small in the presence of dead men, and ashamed at being alive, and you don’t ask silly questions.
We left him there beside the road, that first one, and we all went back into the cowshed and sat on water cans or lay on the straw, waiting for the next batch of mules.
Somebody said the dead soldier had been dead for four days, and then nobody said anything more about it. We talked soldier talk for an hour or more. The dead man lay all alone outside in the shadow of the low stone wall.
Then a soldier came into the cowshed and said there were some more bodies outside. We went out into the road. Four mules stood there, in the moonlight, in the road where the trail came down off the mountain. The soldiers who led them stood there waiting. “This one is Captain Waskow,” one of them said quietly.
Two men unlashed his body from the mule and lifted it off and laid it in the shadow beside the low stone wall. Other men took the other bodies off. Finally there were five lying end to end in a long row, alongside the road. You don’t cover up dead men in the combat zone. They just lie there in the shadows until somebody else comes after them.
The unburdened mules moved off to their olive orchard. The men in the road seemed reluctant to leave. They stood around, and gradually one by one I could sense them moving close to Capt. Waskow’s body. Not so much to look, I think, as to say something in finality to him, and to themselves. I stood close by and I could hear.
One soldier came and looked down, and he said out loud, “God damn it.” That’s all he said, and then he walked away. Another one came. He said, “God damn it to hell anyway.” He looked down for a few last moments, and then he turned and left.
Another man came; I think he was an officer. It was hard to tell officers from men in the half light, for all were bearded and grimy dirty. The man looked down into the dead captain’s face, and then he spoke directly to him, as though he were alive. He said: “I’m sorry, old man.”
Then a soldier came and stood beside the officer, and bent over, and he too spoke to his dead captain, not in a whisper but awfully tenderly, and he said:
“I sure am sorry, sir.”
Then the first man squatted down, and he reached down and took the dead hand, and he sat there for a full five minutes, holding the dead hand in his own and looking intently into the dead face, and he never uttered a sound all the time he sat there.
And finally he put the hand down, and then reached up and gently straightened the points of the captain’s shirt collar, and then he sort of rearranged the tattered edges of his uniform around the wound. And then he got up and walked away down the road in the moonlight, all alone.
After that the rest of us went back into the cowshed, leaving the five dead men lying in a line, end to end, in the shadow of the low stone wall. We lay down on the straw in the cowshed, and pretty soon we were all asleep.
Source: Ernie’s War: The Best of Ernie Pyle’s World War II Dispatches, edited by David Nichols, pp. 195-97. Pictures courtesy of The Lilly Library, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana
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But Joe Galloway cannot write an article like the above article by Ernie Pyle because .
Joe Galloway has no empathy for the troops, he cannot empathize with them because they are his
target, His payroll,he makes money off of them.
Joe Lee Galloway, a CONMAN, viciously, victimize’s the Widows and Children of deceased soldiers, for his
own gain.
One of the Widows, was Trudy Jimmy D. Nakayama’s Wife and their daughter Nikki.
Joe Lee Galloway claims to have rushed on to the Landing Zone to rescued Jimmy D. Nakayama, after the
friendly fire accident with the napalm attack.
Jimmy D. Nakayama and James Clark walked to the perimeter, and other troops foxholes.
after the troops gave them first aid they walked them to the aid station.
FACT: Jimmy D. Nakayama and James Clark walked, to the aid station under their own power, aided by other
troops.
Arturo Villarreal · Sidney Lanier High School
Sp4 James Clark was not given any morphine by the medics. He came running towards my foxhole with his clothes on fire. I helped putting the fire out and I just gave him some saline solution. I took him to the CP and ask the doctor to give him something for the terrible pain, but the doctor told that they didn’t have anything to give him and he just told me to just keep giving him the saline solution. After some time pass, some helicopters landed and I put him aboard one of them.
Joe Galloway makes Jason Blair, and Stephen Glass, look like Dumb and Dumber< taken from the movie.
Joe Galloway need to be stripped of the Bronze Star , Barred from every military institution.
Joe Galloway is Jason Blair and Stephen Glass combined.
Joe Galloway is a PREDATOR, His victims are all members of the Armed Forces, They are like deer in his
headlights.
Joe Galloway makes up stories, used other peoples works, ideas.
To get to all military people using Ernie Pyles, and Bill Mauldin Books.
He talks at Veterans Day parades, VFW's, and other places military people gather.
Some facts about Joe Galloway
Did He know former President Truman? NO.
Did he know Dickey Chapplle, only for a couple of hours in a bar, Then all he did was to demean her,
on who was going to carry her gear when she was in the field.
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Leadership by Hal G. Moore, was his outlook, through Rose Colored Glasses
Quote Hal G. Moore “If you think you might lose, you’ve already lost” is just one of Moore’s rules for leading self and others…
Quote Hal G. Moore “If you think you might lose, you’ve already lost”
Yet, Hal G. Moore failed to instill this in his troops, even his Sergeant Major Basil Plumley, said that if He Hal G. Moore was killed they, the 1/7 would lose the battle at LZ X-Ray Nov 14,1965.
Sergeant Major Plumley
Quote Hal G. Moore”I felt a firm hand on my shoulder,
It was Sergeant Major Plumley, shouting above the noise of the guns: ‘Sir, if you
don’t find some cover you’re going to go down, and if you go down we all go down.”
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THING LEFT OUT OF THE 1/7th’s AFTER ACTION REPORT, LZ X-Ray in Vietnam, 14th Nov to
16 Nov 1965.
February 15, 20171:24 PM ET
Heard on Fresh Air
( Hal G.) MOORE: OK. About 10 minutes before we took off for the Ia Drang Valley in the initial assault, I received information that there were three battalions of enemy – and a battalion of North Vietnamese is around
500 men – that there were three battalions of the enemy within two miles of our landing zone.
++10 minutes before lift off for LZ X-RAY, Hal G. Moore the 1/7th Battalion Commander was told that they were facing 1,500 enemy troops near LZ X-Ray.
Hal G. Moore tells no one.
After landing at LZ X-Ray, the 1/7 and Hal G. Moore clear the LZ and then the 1/7 set down in a group and eat lunch.
When the shooting starts instead of setting up their defense’s their troops were told to eat fast.
The 1/7 now has to take area they had just taken with out any trouble, now has to take it back with force.
It was then reported to me that the two artillery batteries were in position, and I set a time of
++1030 hours for the assault landing with the 20 minute tube artillery preparation to be timed to be completed at H-Hour minus one minute.
Page 58 of We Were Soldiers Once and Young.
Left out is the 8 minute artillery fire on LZ Tango and the 8 minutes artillery fire on LZ Yankee.
and the two Huey Gun-Ships to fire on LZ X-Ray, 30 second ARA and the 30 second machine-gun.
8 min. +8 min. +20 min.+ 30 seconds+ 30 seconds, For a total of 37 minutes of artillery fire.time
from 10:17 to 10:48 would be 1051 hrs.
one story said they left for LZ X-Ray at 1330 hrs.
another story said 1035 hrs.
The A and C Company Commanders were then flown back to their companies.
These company’s A and C were 6 miles or more from Plei Me Camp, Plei Me was 14.3 + 6 miles = 20.3 miles.
The time was approximately 0915 hours.
The we got word the artillery was not in position, and could not fire till 10:17 Hours.
Hal G. Moore does not give the new H hour.
Missing is the time, the 1/7th left for LZ X-Ray on Nov 14th 1965.
++The key element is missing from the after action report and the operation orders is, the flight time from Plei Me to LZ X-Ray!!and the time the first group the assault group is to leave for LZ X-Ray.
This is not found out till the assault group is in the Huey’s and the flight time is ask for by the 1/7th’s Battalion Commander Hal G. Moore.
The artillery firing time is artillery preparation to be timed to be completed at H-Hour minus one minute.
B. THE INITIAL ASSAULT:
Due to last minute positioning of the artillery pieces caused by air movement delays, the preparatory fires did not begin until 1017 hours.
The new H hour should be 11:00 a.m.
+Left out preparatory fires 8 minutes on Tango and 8 minutes on Yankee = 16 min.+ 20 minutes + 1 minute on LZ X-Ray, total prep time 37 minutes.
Left out the time to change artillery fire from Tango 1 minute to Yankee 1 minute, Yankee to LZ X-Ray 1 minute, at least 5 minutes to change from ARA to the Gunship, ARA has to get out of the way of the Gunship fire, 1 minute for the 1/7th to land at LZ X-Ray.
1/7th landed on LZ X-Ray at 10:48 a.m.
Hal G. Moore the 1/7th’s Battalion Commander++ I was, in the lead aircraft and had a good view of these fires.
++This means the assault group was at 2,000 FT. not a tree top level.
page 59 About four miles X-Ray Bruce Crandall gave the signal and his pilots dropped down to tree
top level to fly nap of the earth on the final approach, in Huey helicopter how could the see LZ X-Ray?
The aerial artillery came in on the heels of the tube artillery fires and worked over the area for 30 seconds expending half their loads – then went into a nearby air orbit on call.
The lift battalion gun ships took up the fires and were immediately ahead of the UH-lD’s.
As we came in for the assault landing ++ “all door gunners fired into the trees and high grass.”
We landed and ran from the landing zone into the trees firing our M-16’s at likely enemy positions.
To refuel the Huey’s of Bruce Crandall had to fly 30 miles to refuel and back,when he was suppose to have the refueling point near the Plei Me air strip.
B. FRIENDLY (INCLUDES ATTACHED UNITS):
Killed – 79
Wounded – 121
++Missing – >>>>>None!<<<<
Hal G. Moore left dead on LZ X-Ray Nov 16 1965, when he said he would leave no man behind on the battlefield dead or alive.
one troop is still missing to this day a SP/4 Hiemer.
FACT: The 1/7th had missing troops about 4-6.
http://armchairgeneral.com/interview-steve-hansen-vietnam-veteran.htm/7
Steven R. Hansen 'Yes, we did return to the Ia Drang. In fact, we air assaulted back into
LZ X-Ray.
It was quiet.
The mission was to search for and retrieve the remains of some MIAs.
We found them.'
The battlefield had been cleaned up pretty good by both sides.
We found a scattering of stuff and I noticed the remains of one NVA soldier near the "Ant
Hill" that sheltered the command post during the battle.
(3) In a perimeter defense.
The 1/7 did not have a 360 degree perimeter, defense only a 180 degree perimeter.
From Page 72 of We Were Soldiers Once and Young
Quote: Hal G. Moore " I had decided to commit Charley Company toward the mountain as fast as they arrived,
and taking the risk of leaving my rear unguarded from the north and east.
Hal G. Moore didn't know what was going on at LZ X-Ray.
(4) When a man is wounded or killed, his weapon and some of his equipment get separated from him in many cases.
An S-4 representative – officer or NCO with assistants, must be present at least in the battalion forward aid station and at the collecting company at Forward Support.
Some of our equipment was evacuated with men all the way to Qui Nhon.
Also we had many M-16's shot up and had to have replacements in the area.
Therefore we kept a lot of weapons in the battle area for re-issue.
When we were pulled out we brought all excess weapons and equipment with us.
Many enemy weapons which were captured and sent out with friendly KIA and WIA were never seen again.
Joseph Lee Galloway's original story of Landing Zone X-RAY Nov,14-16, 1965 Twenty JAMESTOWN ( N.Y. ) POST- JOURNAL- Wednesday Evening,November 17,1965
WOUNDED SOLDIER LOSES HALF HIS PLATOON IN BITTER CHU PONG FRAY
FACT: Quote Joe Lee Galloway "At Day break Monday ( Nov 15,1965 ), Medical helicopters began landing and taking off again with the wounded.A detail was assign the job of collecting weapons and ammunition from the wounded before they were evacuated."
The unit commander fighting the battle in the objective area loses control of equipment, friendly and enemy, once it leaves the forward area by helicopter.
A more effective "backstop" system must be set up to catch this gear and control it when it arrives at various unloading points in the rear.
++ When C Company 1/7th was over ran, they lost over 70 weapons to the enemy, who striped off all of the C Company troops weapons.
Page 158 Arthur Viera, The enemy was all over at least 200 of them, He took my watch and my .45 pistol and walk on. I saw them strip off all our weapons.
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FICTION: Fabrication applies particularly to a false but carefully invented statement or a series of statements, in
which some truth is sometimes interwoven, the whole usually intended to deceive.
The Greatest Hero “Hal G. Moore.”
“The Greatest Hero” from “Sergio Aragon’s GROO the wanderer. Marvel GROO 70 October 1990
“People everywhere are smitten- With a tale that is written.
Once a hero’s deeds are known- They’re as good as etched in stone.
Every word, folks take to heart- And think this makes them very smart.
Amazing how the very wise- Never stop to realize- That what they read may not be true-
Groo Moral: Even when the words are true the may not speak the truth.
How Can you make Col. Klink ( Hal G. Moore ) and Rambo the Reporter (Joe Lee Galloway Serial Killer ) into hero’s?
Pages from the hardback.
We Were Soldiers Once And Young= FICTION
Hal G. Moore was the Col. Klink, Custer of the war.
He knew nothing, nothing, About Air Assault. ( using helicopters as transport )
Page 17 Hal G. Moore’s new concepts & techniques were written in the 1950’s FM 57-35 Army Transport Aviation-Combat Operations, 1963 FM 57-35 Airmobile Operations, by Officers he worked with? in 1957.
Hal G. Moore in 1957 “I was in on the concept of Airmobility with Gavin, Norton, Seneff Williams”.
Hal G. Moore claim’s 2 1/2 years writing, 1 1/2 years training in Airmobile tactics in the 11 Air Assault Division Test, for a total of 4 years and yet he retained nothing about Airmobile tactics.
FACT: At the pentagon, Hal G. Moore was in the R&D branch of Air Mobility, his job was developing new Airborne equipment and synchronizing Army-Air Force requirements for airborne operations.
It had nothing to do with Air Assault, working with helicopters.
Hal G. Moore didn’t even know they were writing the air assault manual 57-35 Army Transport
Aviation-Combat Operations in 1957.
Hal G. Moore knew nothing about Air Assault tactics!
Page 37 Bruce Crandall “Hal G. Moore wanted Aviation present, to be part of his Staff”.
FACT: Hal G. Moore, Bruce Crandall or his ALO ( Air Liaison Officer ) had to coordinate the flight time from Plei
Me to X- Ray, flight routes, fire support, resupply and a Medevac Huey.
Hal G. Moore couldn’t plan the operation with out Bruce Crandall ( aviation ) present.
Page 60 As Bruce Crandall flared the Huey to land at Landing Zone X-Ray, Hal G. Moore & his troops starts firing their weapons.
Fact: FM 57-35 Army Transport Aviation-Combat Operations in 1957-1963.
There is no firing from the helicopter during flight, landing or any other time.
Pity the troop to their right a face full of hot brass, left ear drums ringing, brass on floor or getting caught in the Huey’s controls.
Hal G. Moore who had been listening to the battle of Landing Zone Albany on the radio at Pleiku, volunteered for the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry to go to Columbus to guard the artillery.
So the 2nd Battalion 5th Cavalry could go and reinforce Landing Zone ALBANY.
MYTHS of The Ia Drang Valley: Some Officers even Kinnard stated that Hal G. Moore, volunteered to go into Landing Zone ALBANY, but he didn’t.
And from Persons in the book, That Hal G. Moore and Joe Lee Galloway write good about give in return and adds to the MYTHS about the 1/7 and Hal G. Moore.
One Reporter Bob Poos of Soldier of Fortune writes, that Hal G. Moore and the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry was the ones who relived the Plie Me Camp.
Soldier of Fortune March 83 page 29-30 ARVN AMBUSH 3rd column last 2 paragraphs.
Plie Me did get relief- with a vengeance- from the 1st Cavalry Division.
Through a strange coincidence, the Plie Me camp commander, Capt. Harold Moore, Learned later that much of the relief force was commanded by a name sake, Harold G. Moore commander of the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry.
When in fact it was my old unit the 1/12 and 2nd Battalion 8th Cavalry.
George Forrest when he spoke to the Old Guard said Hal G. Moore was there on the ground floor in the 11 Air Assault Division in 1963. ( He has this wrong, it Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade not Hal. G. Moore. Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade was one of the first chosen by Kinnard in 1963.
So starts the myths, about Hal G. Moore and the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry in Vietnam.
Ha G. Moore’s idea would cost time because, the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry would have to be flown to Columbus, 4 hours.
Then the 2nd Battalion 5th Cavalry would have to be flown to Landing Zone Albany another 4 hours.
8 hours to reinforce Landing Zone Albany?
So why didn’t Kinnard send the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry to reinforce Landing Zone ALBANY?
They were probably to drunk? as they had spent the day of the 17 Nov 1965, in the Bars of Pleiku.
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The most outrageous LIE!
At Landing Zone Albany.
There on the dying enemy soldier something shiny.
A big battered old French army Bugle.
FACT: This Bugle was captured at Landing Zone X-Ray and brought into Landing Zone Albany by the reinforcements.
From Pleiku by J. D. Coleman.
page 242
Larry Gwin ” Remembers how Rick Rescorla, platoon leader of 1st Platoon, Bravo Company, came swaggering into the tiny perimeter, toting an M-79 ( grenade launcher ), an M-16 ( rifle ), and a BUGLE he had captured two days before on X-Ray.
Leadership Principle 1.
Be Technically and Tactically Proficient To know you job thoroughly, you must posses not only specific knowledge of its details but also a broad general knowledge concerning its area of interest. You should be competent in combat operations and training as well as in the technical and administrative aspects of your duties.
If you demonstrate deficiencies in these functions, your subordinates will lose confidence in you as a leader.
Hal G. Moore is under the delusion he has come up with a new Air Assault tactic for the 1st lift.
This would doom his men. for the want of a nail, The 2nd Battalion 7th Cavalry and the attached unit the 1/5th.
As the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray would grind up, The Troops, Helicopters and Artillery.
Making them unavailable, for other units.
Leading to the walk to Landing Zone Albany by the 2/7 and the 1/5th.
What happened?
It would appear Hal G. Moore would be the first one chosen by Kinnard for the 11 AIr Assault Test, When it started up in 1963 but he wasn’t thought of.
Hal G. Moore had To write a letter to Major General Kinnard ( His Old Boss ) begging for a Infantry Battalion in the 11 Air Assault Division. ( To get promoted or get kicked out? of the service. ) Hal G. Moore “I was fighting to get a Battalion. ”
The following, From the book. Hal Moore by Mike Guardia A Soldier Once …. And Always.
Like he did in Korea, Hal G. Moore, needed a combat command to get promoted to his next rank.
In Korea Hal G. Moore claimed 14 months in combat.
Fact: Hal G. Moore having only serve 16 days in Command of an Infantry Unit, K Company, that was in a combat position on the MLR.
Page 64 Hal G. Moore, July 1, 1952 arrived in Korea.
experience. as Hal G. Moore missed WW 2.
Hal G. Moore was placed in the heavy mortar company 2,800 yards behind the front line.
12 days in command of the Mortars.
Page 69 Hal G. Moore went to Regimental S-3, a desk job,for 6 months.
Hal G.Moore learns he must command a combat unit, an Infantry unit, to achieve his next rank of Major.
The Division Commander comes to see Moore, alone.
Page 78 Feb 4,1953 Hal G. Moore assumed command K company 3rd Battalion, 17th Infantry.
Page 79 After only 16 days in command of company K.
Hal G. Moore was recalled to Division Headquarters to fulfill his role as the Assistant Division G-3.
Army Transport
Aviation-Combat Operations in 1957
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It wasn’t till 1964, 1 year after the 11 Air Assault started, Hal G. Moore got the call.
Hal G. Moore didn’t get a Battalion in the 11 Air Assault, but instead was given a Infantry Battalion in the 2 infantry Division.
The 2nd Battalion 23rd Infantry which was attached to the 11 Air Assault in 1964.
Hal G. Moore Had never commanded a Infantry Battalion before.
Hal G. Moore had no Battalion Commander schooling.
But one of the hand picked officers by Kinnard in 1963, was Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade, He was chosen for the G-1 spot,
Vietnam made Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade, a 3 War Veteran in the Infantry, in WW 2 Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade was a Platoon Leader in the Pacific, duration of thee war, in the Korean War Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade was a Company Commander for 1 year, In Vietnam a Battalion Commander 6 months.
He would be given command of the 2nd Battalion 7th Cavalry around November 7,1965 approximately 10 days before the battle of Landing Zone Albany.
Lt. Col. Robert A, McDade Had never Commanded a Infantry Battalion before.
THERE WAS ANOTHER FACTOR, Hal G. Moore AND Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade WERE IN A WAY HAVING A POWER STRUGGLE, Well Hal G. Moore was!
In the Fact that Hal G. Moore was pissed because he wasn’t chosen by Kinnard for the 11 Air assault in 1963 and Lt. Col. Robert A. McDade was chosen in 1963.
Keep abreast of current military developments.
What Hal G. Moore failed in.
Hal G. Moore didn’t know Air Assault and standard Infantry tactics! In the Korean War, Hal G. Moore having no combat experience, Yet Hal G. Moore had been place in the S-3 and
Assistant G-3.
Hal G. Moore “I thought up a new technique for the initial lift.”
Fact: There are only two types of Air assaults.
Hal G. Moore under the delusion he had come up with a new technique.
The ground Commander ( Hal G. Moore ) must consider two general types of Airmobile assault when preparing the ground tactical plan.
These types of assaults differ primarily in the proximity of the Landing Zone, to the assault objective.
The first and preferred type is the landing of the assault echelons immediately on, or adjacent to, the
objective.
The second type of assault involves landing a distance from the objective in a secure LZ, and requires
assembly, reorganization, and movement to an attack position prior to the assault on the objective.
Some simulare characteristics of Hal G. Moore and Custer.
When no one wrote about them, They wrote their own Books.
Both were considered too Flamboyant, by fellow officers.
And not well liked.
George Armstrong Custer ( His men called him yellow hair ) Commander of the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry at the battle of the Little Bighorn.
The Indians would wipe Custer’s command group of the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry out to a man.
Starting the Indian wars, The UNITED STATES would unite and almost wipe out all the Indians taking their lands and putting them on Reservations.
Harold G. Moore ( His men called him yellow hair ) Commander 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry at the
battle of Landing Zone X-Ray November the 14,1965 Pleiku Provence of South Vietnam.
Hal G. Moore’s men with help from the reinforcement’s ( B co 2/7 ,2/5 saves Landing Zone X-RAY.
Starting the Vietnam war.
Which almost tears the United States apart.
Both Battles ( The Little Bighorn ) and ( Landing Zone X-Ray ) were fought by the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry.
On a Sunday, In a Valley, By a River, In tall Grass and near a Large Mountain or Hill top.
Both Commanders were told the size of the enemy troops.
By their Scouts. But didn’t believe them.
Scout to Custer “There is a very very large Indian camp down there.” Custer “Where I don’t see any camp”
Intelligence Lieutenant by radio to to Hal G. Moore, 10 minutes before lift off for LZ X-Ray”There is 1500 enemy Troops a PAVN Regiment near the Chu Pong mountain.
Hal G. Moore that didn’t really bother me.
Both the Commanders wanted to force the Enemy to stand and fight.
As the enemy’s tactics were hit and run. Custer in the lead charges into the valley his troops behind to cut off the Indians, So they couldn’t escape on to the plains.
Hal G. Moore in the lead Huey, charges in to the Valley, His troop behind, he Hal G. Moore would be the first one on Landing Zone X-Ray, hoping the North Vietnamese or the Viet Cong wouldn’t escape in to the mountains
and into Cambodia.
Both Commanders would get their wish.
The Indians and North Vietnamese would send 1,000 or more men out to meet the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry.
The Commanders then realized that the size of the enemy forces was true.
Their scouts were right
They were out numbered.
Both battles were defensive.
After the initial charge by the 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry, They would pull back, Circle the wagons and let the enemy throw them selves at their defense’s.
Custer couldn’t get his reinforcements, They were a mile away cut off, Fighting their own battle, His supplies were with them.
The 1st Battalion 7th Cavalry, under Custer’s command was wiped out to the man.
Hal G. Moore didn’t have that problem “I had something Custer didn’t, Reinforcements with in Hours.
But Hal G. Moore forgot to lay on supplies and water for his troops.
After landing at X-Ray, they cleared the LZ and then sat down in a group and ate lunch, instead of setting up the LZ defiance’s.
Hal G. Moore’s Men with the help of the Reinforcements ( B co 2/7 and 2/5 ) save Landing Zone X-Ray, 4 Battalions ended up on LZ X-Ray, Hal G. Moore and the 1/7 never left the Landing Zone till 3 days later.
Starting the Vietnam War.
It would almost destroy the United States.
Their Troops FOUGHT VALIANTLY.
What happened to Hal G. Moore’s H-hour?
Hal G. Moore get’s his H- hour confused, with the Attack time in the mission order.
lift off time from Plei Me should have been around 1020 hrs. Hal G. Moore has 37 minutes of prep fires.
Prep fires should have started at 0955 hrs
As Hal G. Moore has put his H-hour at H-1030.
H-hour in air assault terms is defined as the time the lead helicopter touches down on the Landing Zone.
Hal G. Moore then gets word the Artillery cant fire until H-1017.
Hal G. Moore is still at Plei Me! when he should been be in the air at 1022 hrs
H-hour get delayed.
New Lift off time from Plei Me should have been 1030 hrs.
Page 58 Allowing for artillery 8 minutes each on Yankee and tango = 16 minutes + 20 minute preparatory fires on 30 second aerial rocket artillery 30 second gunship machine-gun fire. 37 minutes total prep fires.
So that should make the new H-hour, H- 1107 hrs.
But Hal G. Moore has made no increments in his assault plans.
Hal G. Moore ” I saw the splash of the WP round signaling the last round on X-RAY”.( This means the assault group was still at 2,000.’ ) not at tree top as Bruce Crandall said.
FACT: ( WP takes 5 to 10 minutes to come to the tops of the Jungle foliage. )
The Huey’s are in a heavy left.
page 58 Hal G. Moore ( who is in the lead Huey setting behind Bruce Crandall in the left, the seat co-Pilots seat).
All key Commander’s and staff are in Bruce Crandall’s Huey! the lead Huey.
FM 57-35 They are suppose to be split up and put in different Huey’s of the lift,so the loss of one Huey does not destroy the key command structure.
The Pilot sets on the right side of the Huey, Mills’s was setting in the right seat, leading the 1 lift assault flight.
Hal G. Moore sets foot on Landing Zone X- Ray at H-1048
Jon Mills flight time from Plie Me to LZ X-Ray is also wrong, 13 minutes and 15 second’s .
The correct time is 8 minutes.
Page 58 Hal G. Moore as they load the Huey’s “what is the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray”?
14.3 miles.
Page 37 Hal G. Moore and Bruce Crandall plan an Air Assault.
Page 40 with a time table & failed to put down the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X- Ray, with out
this information, How did they plan the Assault?
Page 58 Jon Mills 13 min 15 sec.
Page 59 Speed ( rate ) 110 knots this time will take them 25 miles away.
The correct time is 8 min.
Formula for Time is- Distance X 60 divide by Rate ( Speed ) 14.3 X 60 = 858 divide by 110 = 7.8 min = 8 min time is rounded up to the nearest min.
Formula for Distance is rate ( Speed ) X time divided by 60 110 X 8 = 880 divide by 60 = 14.6 miles = 15 miles miles is rounded up to the nearest 1/2 mile.
Using 7.8 min for time for the distance 110 X 7.8 = 858 divide by
60 = 14.3 miles, The distance from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray.
We Were Soldiers Once And Young is FICTION only Hal G. Moore and Joseph L. Galloway , Jack P. Smith ,Vincent Cantu,Larry Gwin, George Forrest.
The other enlisted men, Officers, Junior Officers of the 2/5, B co 2/7 and 2/7 Battalion stories cannot be disputed.
Hal G. Moore couldn’t READ a MAP?
Page 30 November 9, 1965 Hal G. Moore “What does the RED STAR that is on the intelligence map mean?”
The Red Star is not a military symbol its explanation should have been on the lower right side ( margin ) of the map.
Hal G. Moore Moore ” I had no doubt the 1/7 my Battalion would be chosen to mount the attack into the Ia Drang
as the 2/7 had a new commander.
Fact!! ” the 1/7 was closer to the objective, then the 2/7 ” and had nothing to do with the readiness of the Battalions. (Gen.John J Tolson).
Page 17 Hal G. Moore’s new concepts & techniques were written in the 1950’s FM 57-35 Army Transport
Aviation-Combat Operations.1960’s FM 57-35 Airmobile Operations.
By Officers he worked with?
Page 17 1957 Hal G. Moore “I was in on the concept of Airmobility with Pentagon Research and development group
Hal G. Moore “I was the 1st man in the Airborne Branch”.
4 years writing and training in Airmobile tactics.
Yet Hal G. Moore retained nothing about Airmobile tactics.
Page 41 Hal G. Moore “I thought up a new technique for the initial lift”.
There are only 2 types of Air assaults, This is the 2 one.
Page 37 Bruce Crandall ” Hal G. Moore wanted Aviation to be present, to be part of his Staff”.
FM 57-35 Both the Ground Commander ( Hal G. Moore ) and Aviation Commander ( Bruce Crandall ) or his ALO had to coordinate>flight time from Plei Me to X-Ray, flight routes,resupply.
Moore couldn’t plan the operation with out Aviation present.
FM 57-35 Key personnel are distributed among the aircraft of the lift so the loss of one aircraft does not destroy the command structure.
Page 58 Hal G. Moore and Bruce Crandall, and all of Hal G. Moore’s command post in the same Huey.
Page 59 The lift is flying at 110 knots.
Field Manual 57-35 When different types of aircraft fly in a single lift, cruising speed of the slower aircraft must be the controlling speed of the lift.
UH-1B’s are Gunships fly at 80 knots, UH-1D’s are Slicks 110 knots.
I ask B co’s 1/7 3rd Platoon Leader Dennis Deal, why didn’t Hal G. Moore lay on water for his men ( B co would be on the LZ for over 4 hours ) and why he said it was not the Aviation’s job to haul out Wounded Troops?
B co’s 1/7 3rd Platoon Leader Dennis Deal “Don’t ask me I know nothing about Airmobile tactics.”
Page 106 Hal G. Moore we needed water, medical supplies and ammo.
Page 107 B co 1/7 3rd Platoon Leader Dennis Deal by 3 pm we ran out of water, the wounded kept begging for water.
Page 145 November 15, 1965 at 6:20 am Jemison shared his last drops of water.
Page 112 November 14, 1965 While all day long the Battalion Supply Officer was riding in and out of X-Ray 240# of water, medical, ammo not coming in, 1 Wounded troop not going out.
And Galloway came. 240# of water, medical, ammo not coming in.
Page 106 Hal G. Moore “Hauling Wounded,was not the slick crews job”.
Field Manual 7-20 the Battalion Commanders handbook page 330 paragraph 378 Battalion aid station
page 331,when Helicopter ambulances are not available, other helicopters may be utilized.
Hauling wounded is the secondary mission of all military aircraft.
Page 63 Hal G. Moore used his command Huey to haul out a non wounded POW.
Page 167 But none his wounded troops, Lt. Franklin terribly wounded was set aside to die.
Bruce Crandall “Hauling out wounded wasn’t my units job.”
Field Manual 1-100 Army Aviation 1963
Page 30 paragraph 58 supporting Aero-medical Evacuating Means
A. To the extent feasible, ALL Army utility and cargo aircraft are designed for use as air ambulances when required.
B. Augmentation aero-medical and air movement of patients is a secondary mission for non medical aviation
units.
D. Cargo aircraft are used for assault, support and logistical cargo and troop transport with in the
battle area.
They may also be used for such specialized mission as refueling, resupply of ammunition to
combat formations, and the EVACUATION OF CASUALTIES.
FM 1-100 Army Aviation The Command and Control Huey is to be used for Command and Control ONLY it shouldn’t be used for any other purpose, like RESUPPLY.
A Medevac Huey was suppose to fly with the assault echelon ( 1st Lift ). Bruce Crandall was suppose ask for it.
Page 150 a wounded troop was stumbling toward the aid station,Joe Lee Galloway ” stay away go back” what was this 17 year old soldiers thoughts, 20 feet from the aid station and treatment and told to stay away, by a reporter.
Joe Lee Galloway “The soldier made it to the aid station much later.”
( How long did he suffer, because he was chased away from the aid station, by Joe Lee Galloway? )
FM 57-35 page 12 paragraph 24 supply 6 miscellaneous. a. probable water supply points are
predesignated. and comes in with the following echelon.
FM 7-20 Battalion Commander’s handbook. page 271 paragraph 313 returning aircraft may be used for the evacuation of casualty’s.
Joe Lee Galloway had no military service.
COMMAND RESPONSIBILITY
No one expects the Battalion Commander to act as a rifleman no matter how proficient he is.
As he does so.
who commands his battalion?
Who gives guidance to his Company Commanders, he is taking responsibility away from his men
and not meeting his own.
Page 34 Hal G. Moore “I went to school on the Division Commander, authority must be pushed down to the man on the spot.
Page 40 Hal G. Moore “I personally to influence the action would be in the 1st Huey to land on X-Ray.”
Page 60 Hal G. Moore leading his command group clear a sector of X-Ray, on the way back to the LZ, meet the troops who were suppose to clear that sector.
Page 73 Hal G. Moore “I was tempted to join A co or C co’s company’s men”
Page 108 Hal G. Moore “My operations Officer`& the Aviation Liaison Officer had controlled all flights into X-Ray,
I (Hal G. Moore) then took control, every Huey coming to X-Ray must radio me ( Hal G. Moore) for landing instructions.
Page 109 Bruce Crandall “Hal G. Moore was now a signalman at the far end of the LZ was standing up, directing us where to land.”
Page 109 The Brigade Commander had given Hal G. Moore pathfinders. One was on orange 1’s helicopter in the 1st lift.
Page 195 Hal G. Moore “I personally lead the final counterattack to make certain that the Company Commander of B co 2/7 & his men did a safe, clean, job & to look for my Missing Troops.
Hal G. Moore didn’t allow anybody who out ranked him on LZ X-Ray.
Page 58 Hal G. Moore didn’t bring in his Executive Officer Herman Wirth ( 2nd in command ) to help run the battalion command post.
Hal G. Moore “The Battalion Rear Command Post was run by my Executive Officer Major Herman Wirth”.
FM 7-20 The executive Officer place is normally in the Main Battalion Command Post( during Combat )
EXECUTIVE OFFICER ( XO )
The XO is second in command and the battalion commander’s main assistant. As the second in charge, he must be prepared to assume the duties of the commander.
a. The XO, as the coordinator of the battalion staff, establishes staff operating procedures.
He ensures the commander and staff are informed on matters affecting the command. To coordinate and synchronize the plan, the XO assembles and supervises the staff during the decision-making process.
He establishes the required liaison. Unless instructed otherwise by the commander, all staff officers inform the XO of any recommendations or information they give directly to the commander or any instructions they receive directly from the commander.
When required, he represents the commander, SUPERVISES THE MAIN COMMAND POST and its Operations, and provides for battalion logistical support.
b. The XO, as the second in command, transmits the commander’s decision to staff sections and, in the name of the commander, to subordinate units as needed.
The XO keeps abreast of the situation and future plans and represents the commander during the commander’s absence.
He is considered a combat leader and is prepared to assume command at any time. During combat, he supports the commander by anticipating problems and synchronizing operations at the MAIN COMMAND POST.
ALTHOUGH THE XO NORMALLY STAYS IN THE MAIN COMMAND POST( DURING COMBAT,) HE MUST BE READY TO MOVE IF HE IS REQUIRED AT ANOTHER LOCATION.
c. All information flows through the TOC and the XO except when circumstances require otherwise. The exception occurs during fast-paced operations when vital information flows via orders and reports between the command group and the key maneuver elements. In this situation, the XO is a key leader in the TOC, sometimes checking attachments–for example, monitoring the nets and progress of supporting units–monitoring the overall battle, ensuring reports are rendered as necessary, supervising planning of future operations, and providing the commander with situational assessments as needed.
d. The XO assumes responsibility for the diverse elements operating in the TOC during the battle.
Those elements receive and analyze information from a wide variety of sources. The XO analyzes all of this for information that might be immediately useful to the commander.
The commander uses the XO’s analysis along with the steady flow of information coming from his subordinate commanders and the advice of the operations officer.
KEY DUTIES
SUPERVISES THE MAIN COMMAND POST AND ITS OPERATIONS, DURING COMBAT AND PROVIDES FOR BATTALION LOGISTICAL SUPPORT.
He supports the Commander by anticipating problems and synchronizing operations at the main Command Post.
Although the XO NORMALLY STAYS in the MAIN COMMAND POST DURING COMBAT, he must be ready to move if he is required at another location.
NOTE: Hal G. Moore allowed no one, on Landing Zone X-Ray that out Ranked Him, until the Generals came.
Page 39 Hal G. Moore “we had never maneuvered in combat as a battalion”
Page 28 Hal G. Moore the Battalion made 2 sweeps near An Khe.
Page 31 Nov 9 Hal G. Moore “We shuttled the Battalion in 16 Huey’s”
Page 32 Nov 9 Joe Lee Galloway “My first time out with Hal G. Moore’s 1/7 Battalion”.
Original story Solider of Fortune November 83 Page 25
Nov 9 Joe Lee Galloway “before night fall Hal G. Moore waved his battalion across a stream”
Each Huey could carry 10 Troops. 10 troops X 16 Huey’s =160 Troops per lift.
Page 30 a enemy base camp.
Page 55 Hal G. Moore “a radio intercepted, estimated a N V regiment was near X-Ray.”
Page 57 Commo wire was seen 1/9.
Page 39 Moore puts only 80 men (5 per Huey) in the initial lift.
Page 57 Riflemen extra ammo all they could carry.
Air Assault tactics emphasize maximum initial lift, to get maximum lift each Huey carries minimum amount of fuel + 30 min reserve, with refueling & ammo Points near the Pickup Zone.
Troops only basic load of ammo and web gear (entrenching tool, 2 canteens, bayonet and poncho and 1st aid pack ).
Page 40 Hal G. Moore “later lifts could carry more men 100 as fuel burned off”.
Page 198 Rear area Operation Officer Dick Merchant “the Huey could carry 10 men.”
Page 111 Winkle”I had a total of 16 men in my Huey”.
Fourner “it was left up to each pilot how many men he carried” on later lifts I was carrying 9-12 troops.
How it should have happened according to Air Assault Tactics Field Manual 57-35.
With only 16 Huey’s weight is a factor, so the initial lift ( the assault echelon ) must contain sufficient Troops
to secure the Landing Zone.
The Allowable Cargo Load the ( ACL ) of each UH-1D for this mission should have been 3,000 pounds.
As its under 50 nautical miles ( only 14.3 miles to the objective ).
Using the Space method a space is defined as the weight of a fully combat equipped troop ( 240 pounds )
10 Troops = 2,400 pounds per Huey.
Instead of 5 per Huey as Hal G. Moore has done.
here is an example of how it should have been done according to FM 57-35
Page 39 B co 114 troops, A co 40 troops, Ground Commanders command group 6 for a total of 160 troops in the 1st lift, instead of only 80 Troops.
Hal G. Moore is suppose to know how a Huey works, in case of a crash and your the only one able to move. to shut down the aircraft ( HUEY ).
Page 58 Bruce Crandall ( The Aviation Commander ) is starting the Huey from the left seat the co-pilot seat.
There is no starter on that side.
Page 58 Hal G. Moore as they load the Huey’s “what is the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray” 14.3 miles?
Page 37 Hal G. Moore and Bruce Crandall plan an Air Assault.
Page 40 with a time table & failed to put down the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X- Ray, with out
this information, How did they plan the Assault?
Page 58 JON Mills 13 min 15 sec.
Page 59 Speed ( rate ) 110 knots this time will take them 25 miles away.
The correct time is 8 min.
Formula for Time is Distance X 60 divide by Rate ( Speed ) 14.3 X 60 = 858 divide
by 110 = 7.8 min = 8 min time is rounded up to the nearest min.
Formula for Distance is rate ( Speed ) X time divided by 60 110 X 8 = 880 divide by 60 = 14.6 miles = 15 miles
miles is rounded up to the nearest 1/2 mile.
using 7.8 min for time for the distance 110 X 7.8 = 858 divide by 60 = 14.3 miles
The distance from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray.
Page 188 A blazing flare under an unopened parachute hit the ammo dump, the Sgt.Major grabbed it with his bare hands, it burns at 4,000 degrees, it needs the parachute to lite the candle.
1st Cavalry Division as the Division Commander Kinnard had to use the whole of the division resources to keep Hal G. Moore from losing Landing Zone X-Ray.
Kinnard “I violated a lot of principles about how hard you work your guy’s and how many hour’s you fly your helicopters.”
“I literally flew the Blades off the choppers.”
Joe Galloway’s Fiction.
Stories Part Fiction Joe Lee Galloway embellished for them the U.S. NEWS and World Report Oct 29,1990.
Page 32 Fatal Victory Page 36 Vietnam Story.
ARTICLES Galloway Plagiarized. U.S. News and World Report Oct 25, 93.
Page 45 Step by Step into a Quagmire SOURCE: Stanley Karnow’s Vietnam a History.
Pages 479-485. U.S. News and World Report Feb 4,1991.
Page 49 “Who’s Afraid of the truth” .
SOURCE: Soldier of Fortune Dec 84 Page 104 Press Escorts by Fred Tucker. ( TUCKERS GORILLA’S ).
In the movie Randall portrays Galloway as a Reporter who pick’s up a weapon only to protect the wounded.
BUT!!! Galloway was the most heavily armed Reporter in Vietnam.
++Joe Lee Galloway ” I got to Plei Me on the 23 Oct 1965.”
Page 32 Joseph L. Galloway Had wrangled a ride in to the Plie Me camp while it was under siege, and because of the shortages of fighters found him self assigned to a .30 cal light machine gun.
With two other reporters.
After the battle was over Major Charles A. Beckwith hands Galloway an M-16 rifle( Government property),
Joe Galloway at a Green Beret camp his second day in Vietnam is given a .45 cal grease gun for guard duty. in the morning almost shoots the camp cook coming to work.
Joe Lee Galloway told Major Charles A. Beckwith, Strictly speaking, under the Geneva Convention he was “A civilian noncombatant.”
Joe Lee Galloway admits he committed a crime!
As you see there is no logic.
Fiction, Joe Lee Galloway has just spent 3 days manning a .30 cal machine gun killing PAVN troops and after the battle is over decides he is a civilian noncombatant?
The question is why didn’t Joe Lee Galloway join the service?
Joe Lee Galloway was always to busy playing Soldier instead of being a Reporter.
Joe Lee Galloway wanted to be at any battle he could get to, to record it, But when he get’s there at the battle.
Joe Lee Galloway start’s to play Soldier.
You can’t write or record History, While you busy playing soldier.
Of all the reporters in Vietnam, Galloway was the most dangerous to the American troops, in His Walter Mitty and Rambo persona.
He had no idea what the soldier’s job was, He as a reporter and could do what he wanted and go where he wanted to at any time.
Joseph Lee Galloway A Serial Killer ( Rambo the Reporter ) ROAMED all over VIETNAM, Killing as he pleased.
Joe Lee Galloway’s story about Plei Me is FICTION Page 35 November 13,1965 Joe Lee Galloway hitched a ride from Pleiku to Catecka the 3 Brigade Headquarter’s.
Joe Lee Galloway ” I dug a foxhole out on the perimeter with B company 1/7, Under one of those $50.00 tea bushes, set out some spare! magazines ( M-16 ).
Joe Lee Galloway playing Soldier, It would have been better if he said I set out some spare film rolls. to record events, his mind set is playing soldier.
Page 32 of We Were soldiers Once and Young, Joe Lee Galloway writes, At first lite I pinched of a small piece of C-4 explosive from the emergency supply in my pack and used it to boil up a canteen cup of water for coffee.
Walter Mitty part, If you lit C-4 very carefully you could be drinking hot coffee in maybe 30 seconds.
If you were careless it blew your arm off.
Fact: C-4 is a very stable explosive, you burn it to destroy it, you must have a blasting cap to set it off.
If Joe Lee Galloway was so eager to receive the Bronze Star, Then Joe Lee Galloway should be ready to pay the price for violating the UCMJ. Conspiring to take a Huey Helicopter ( over 500,000 dollars ) and stealing, receiving Military equipment, 1 M 16 Rifle, ammo, 1 Carl Gustaf.
I had to sign for all my equipment as all soldiers did and had to turn it in when I left.
As Joe Lee Galloway wasn’t suppose to be carrying arms as a reporter, Who did Galloway leave the M-16 with, Does he have papers saying he turned it in?
The same with the Carl Gustaf, Where did he get it? Did he buy it, Pick it up on the Battlefield? Did he sell it when he left? The Carl Gustaf would be considered Government property.
If he turned it in, Does he have the paper work to show it?
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Joe Lee Galloway from If You Want a Good Fight Sept 1983, The big lie, Quote Joe Lee Galloway” I got to Plei Me on the 20 Oct,1965.”
From the River STYX Ken Burns Vietnam, Joe Lee Galloway “I got to Plei Me on the 23 Oct, 1965.”
Fact:Joe Lee Galloway flew over Plei Me on the 24 Oct 1965.
Fact: There was only one reporter at Plei Me, Eddie Adams, He was there when the camp when the enemy started the attack.
The pictures of Plei Me Joe Lee Galloway took, were on the 24 Oct. 1965, showing the battle debris.
fiction
Joe Lee Galloway conspired with a friend ( A Huey Pilot ) into flying into Plei Me camp.
There were orders for all aircraft to stay out of the area, The friend went AWOL.
He and Joe Lee Galloway then stole a Huey and flew into Plei Me, Major Charles M. Beckwith needed, medical, and ammo.
At Plei Me Major Charles A. Beckwith had put Joe Lee Galloway and 2 other Reporters on a machine-gun.
Major Charles A. Beckwith gives, Joe Lee Galloway an M-16 Rifle and ammo.
MYTH’s: Page 156- 157 of We Were Soldiers Once and Young, Vincent Cantu and Joe Lee Galloway meet during fierce attack on D and C company’s.
Joe Lee Galloway was taking pictures. Vincent Cantu braved the fire and sprinted to where Joe Lee Galloway was.
TRUTH: Soldier of Fortune Sept 83 Page 28 Mid-morning of 15 Nov 1965, Joe Lee Galloway writes “During a (LULL!! ).” I met Vincent Cantu this was before the (SkyHawk) napalmed the Command post.
MYTH’s: Page 35 of We were Soldiers Once and Young, Joe Lee Galloway “The plantation billed the U.S. $50 for each tea bush and $250 for each rubber tree.”
FACT: Soldier of Fortune Sept 83 Page 25 Joe Lee Galloway, “They billed U.S.$25 for each tea bush $125 for each rubber tree.”
Joe Lee Galloway only left the safety of the Command Post During ” LULL’s ” in the Battle, As soon as the firing started up, He would headed right back to the Command post.
Joe Lee Galloway only took pictures of the dead and wounded, at LZ X-Ray, Joe Lee Galloway took No action pictures.
Page 150 of We were Soldiers Once and Young, Joe Lee Galloway could have helped the wounded trooper when the bullets were flying, instead Joe Lee Galloway “chases”17 year old the wounded trooper away from the Aid Station, how much longer did the trooper suffer, after being chased away from the Aid Station by Joe Lee Galloway?
Russell L. Ross lzalbany65@aol.com
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Hal G. Moore commits ARTICLE 128 of the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice ) Assault with a deadly weapon upon fellow officer’s in a bar.
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I recently saw Hal Moore on the MIL channel (Military ).
He was talking about the Huey’s role in the fight and finally getting back to HQ.
Into the OC ( Officer’s Club ) he went, dirty and bloody. The club manager asked him to leave
as he was not dressed properly.
++( Hal G. ) Moore, calmly, pulled out his .45 and asked for a couple gin and tonics.
++Quote Hal G. Moore Then looked at the camera and said, “I wished the manager said no.”
++Quote Hal G. Moore”I was looking to shoot the place up !”
Talk about the right stuff !!!
Thanks to all who served. You all had – and have – the right stuff.
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Hal G. Moore on, Leadership winning when Outgunned and Outmanned by Mike Guardia
page 20 Hal G. Moore, is the Hypocritical Leader.
Quote Hal G. Moore ” These leaders live by the mantra: ” Do as I say, not as I do”- and rarely practice what
they preach.
Quote Hal G. Moore “The Hypocritical Leader will hold subordinates to a higher standard, but won’t apply that
standard to himself.”
This is a guaranteed formula for failure- both for the leader and his organization.
You, the leader, set the ethical climate for your subordinates.Don’t presume to demand good behavior if you
are are unwilling to exhibit the same.
880. ART. 80. ATTEMPTS
(a) An act, done with specific intent to commit an offense under this chapter, amounting to more than mere
preparation and tending, even though failing, to effect its commission, is an attempt to commit that offense.
(b) Any person subject to this chapter who attempts to commit any offense punishable by this chapter shall be
punished as a court-martial may direct, unless otherwise specifically prescribed.
(c) Any person subject to this chapter may be convicted of an attempt to commit an offense although it appears on
the trial that the offense was consummated.
Hal G. Moore commits ARTICLE 128 of the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice ) Assault with a deadly
weapon upon fellow officer’s in a bar.
from page 205-206 We Were Soldiers Once and Young
Manual for COURTS-MARTIAL UNITED STATES `1951, UCMJ
Hal G. Moore unslung his M-16, HE STILL HAD GRENADES ON HIS WEB GEAR and laid it on the bar,
Jon Mills and Bruce Crandall solemnly following suit with their .38’s.
( That means they Bruce Crandall and Mills had to take their pistols out of their holsters )
Hal G. Moore then said:
“You got exactly thirty seconds to get some drink on this bar or I’M GOING TO CLEAN HOUSE.
“(a) Any person subject to this chapter who attempts or offers with unlawful force or violence to do bodily harm to another person, whether or not the attempt or offer is consummated, is guilty of assault and shall be punished as a court martial may direct.
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In a letter to Hal G. Moore, Joe Lee Galloway wrote.
from Hal Moore A Soldier …Once and Always by MIKE GUARDIA page 171-172
BUT, JOE LEE GALLOWAY’S TRUE FEELING ABOUT THE VIETNAM VETERAN.
Quote Joe Lee Galloway ” Damed if I’d want to go for a walk in the sun with them.”
Quote Joe Lee Galloway “Black GI’s going thru long involved black power identification rituals.”
Quote Joe Lee Galloway”THE REST ARE JUST COMMITTING SUICIDE.”
Here dead we lie
Because we did not choose
To live and shame the land
from which we sprung
Life to be sure
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John, what an educational piece! Thanks for sharing it. And I agree, you all “are worthy of the respect and admiration as the generations who preceded us.”
Many thanks to you and your friends for your service. I hope that’s something you never tire of hearing. 🙂
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If it wasn’t for Joe Galloway probably no one would have heard about it. I sure Joe embellished it a little over the years and so did the coauthor and then the motion picture embellished it a lot more. I’ll give the man credit for writing it. Being a MP I was there to handle prisoners . I have been to Pli Me ,Duc To Cataka and flew various Hot LZ. I personally think he did a hell of a lot for being non military. Please give the Joe the credit he is due fore being there as a civilian.
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Joe Lee Galloway was with Kinnard all day the 14th Nov 1965, not with Col. Brown when, Joe Lee Galloway claims they flew over the LZ X-Ray battle
By Joe Lee Galloway
Seasoned Veterans cried.
Col. Hal Moore of Bardstown, Ky., the commanding officer of the 7th Battalion, 1st cavalry, Came over to me, tears streaming down his face, His men were catching from the slopes of this mountain range less than five miles from the Cambodian border.
I’m kind of emotional about this, so excuse me,” Moore said to me.
Joseph Lee Galloway’s original story of Landing Zone X-RAY Nov,14-16, 1965
Twenty JAMESTOWN ( N.Y. ) POST- JOURNAL- Wednesday Evening,November 17,1965
WOUNDED SOLDIER LOSES HALF HIS PLATOON IN BITTER CHU PONG FRAY
By JOSEPH GALLOWAY
Chu Pong Mountain, South Viet Nam ( UPI )—- The soldiers eyes were red from loss of sleep, and maybe a bit from crying too, now that it was all over.
A three-day growth of beard stubbled his cheeks. But was hard to see because of the dirt. He was hurt, in terrible pain, but you’d never know it. Slivers of shrapnel had ripped his chest and spared his leg.
He sat on the landing zone below the Chu Pong mountain where more Americans had died than ever before in a battle against Communists in a war over Viet Nam. He had gone through hell — three days of it— and still a bit dazed, more from lack of sleep then his wounds, though. When I walked up to him, he spoke, But not to me in particular, nor to the other guys sitting around sipping the first hot cup of coffee they had since the fight began.
Loses a Friend
” I took care of 14 of ’em myself,” He said. “They were tough little bastards. You had to shoot them to pieces before they quit coming . . . just rip them apart.”
I squatted on my heels waiting for him to say more, But he didn’t. Somebody told me he had lost half of his platoon, including a friend he had served with for more than eight years. “What is his name?” I ask.
” It’s not important,” the sergeant slouching nearby said. “He’s just one of us and he did a damn good job.”
Everyone did a damn good job. And nobody knew it better than Gen. Knowles, task force commander and deputy commander of the 1st Air Cavalry.
“These men were just great,” he told me. “They were absolutely tremendous. I’ve never seen a better job
anywhere, anytime,”
Back From Battle
Monday another American soldier walked out of the jungle into the valley of death.
Bullets whizzed over his head and kicked up dirt at his feet.
” Get down you fool!” We shouted.
The GI kept walking, He carried no weapon, He walked straight and tall.
A mortar shell exploded nearby, He didn’t waver, Shrapnel chopped off branches above my head. But the
American out there in the open came on until he was within a few feet of the battalion command bunker.
He looked funny, dazed.
Then we knew, he was shell shocked. He paused for a moment and looked around. He recognized the aid station set up under the trees and walked toward it.
Just as the soldier reached the station he slumped to his knees, then pitched forward on his face, That is when we saw his back for the first time.
It wasn’t pretty, It had been blown open by a communist mortar.
Medics were unable to reach the soldier because of the almost solid wall of communist bullets and jagged steel
fragments coming from the jungle. So he walked out, The bullets and mortar did not bother him anymore, He had his.
Veterans Cried
The men of the U.S. 1st Air Cavalry fought like heroes. They died the same way, Some took their wounds without a whimper. Seasoned Veterans cried.
Col. Hal Moore of Bardstown, Ky., the commanding officer of the 7th Battalion, 1st cavalry, Came over to me, tears streaming down his face, His men were catching from the slopes of this mountain range less than five miles from the Cambodian border.
I’m kind of emotional about this, so excuse me,” Moore said to me. “But I want you to tell the American people that these men are fighters.
“Look at them.”
Moore pointed to a Negro soldier lying in the shade of a tree. A Communist bullet had torn a huge hole in his stomach. The soldier had his hands over the wound. You could see him bite his lip. He was in terrific pain, But he made no whimper as he waited for a medical helicopter.
” Look at them,” Moore said again. ” They’re great and the American people ought to know it.”
WAR “ACCIDENT”
It was shortly after 8:30 a.m. Monday when one of those terrible accidents of war happened.
I was sitting in the command bunker, A mound of dirt screening us from the communist snipers, looking
at the wounded in the aid station just a few yards away.
Suddenly, I felt a searing heat on my face.
An American fighter-bomber had misjudged the Communist positions, and dropped a load of napalm.
The flaming jelly gasoline, impossible to shake or scrape off once it hits skin, splashed along the ground in a huge dragon’s tail of fire less then 25 yards away.
Screams penetrated the roar of the flames. two Americans stumbled out of the inferno. Their hair burned off in an instant. their clothes were incinerated.
” Good God!” Moore cried. Another plane was making a run over the same area. The colonel grabbed a radio.
” You’re dropping napalm on us!” he shouted. ” Stop those damn planes.”
At almost the last second, the second plane pulled up and away, its napalm tanks still hanging from the wings.
It was an hour before a medical helicopter could get into the area and tend to the two burned men. One GI was a huge mass of blisters, the other not quite so bad. Somehow his legs had escaped the flames. But he had breathed fire into his lungs and he wheezed for air.
A MEDIC ASK ME TO HELP GET THE MEN INTO THE HELICOPTER WHEN IT ARRIVED. THERE
WERE NO LITTERS.
TENDERLY, WE PICKED THE SOLDIERS UP. I HELD A LEG OF THE MOST SERIOUSLY BURNED
MAN.
I WASN’T TENDER ENOUGH. A BIG PATCH OF BURNED SKIN CAME OFF IN MY HAND.
VC BATTALIONS
Chu Pong Mountain rises 2,500 feet from the valley below. From the top, you could almost lob a mortar shell into Cambodia. The mountain slope were heavily jungled. And they hid at least two battalions of North Vietnamese Army regulars—- possibly the same troops who pinned down two companies of air cavalrymen not far away about a week ago.
The cavalry were looking for them, spoiling for a fight. They found the Communist Monday and dropped by helicopter into a small landing zone about the size of a football field at the base of the mountain on the valley floor.
One platoon got about 300 yards up the mountain before the Communist opened up. From Behind, cut it off and fired on the main cavalry force from three sides with small arms, heavy machine-guns, and mortars.
Time and again, the cavalrymen tried to move in and help the platoon’ pull back, It was futile. The fire was to heavy. The platoon spent the night on the mountainside. Their losses were heavy, but the damage to the Communist was said to be heavier.
“We got 70 communist bodies stacked up in front of our positions,” the platoon leader radioed back Monday.
Men Dying
It was shortly before noon Sunday when the cavalrymen swept down in the area about 12 miles west of Pleiku.
Ever since the nine day battle around the Special Forces camp at Plei Me, the cavalrymen have been
sweeping the jungles and running into sporadic contact with hard-core Communist units.
++Brig. Gen. Richard Knowles, deputy commander of the air cavalry division, OFFERED ME A RIDE IN HIS HELICOPTER.
WE CIRCLED OVER THE BATTLE GROUND. Air strikes went in below us. An American A1E skyraider was hit on a low- level bombing run, and the pilot had no chance to bail out. The plane crashed and exploded in a cluster of trees.
Men are dying down there, but they are doing their job. “This is good,” Knowles said.” This is what we came for.
We’ve got a U.S. battalion well -equipped down there.”
Many Dead
++I got my chance to join the men on the ground about 8 P.M. I went with a helicopter loaded with supplies and ammunition.
we were level with the middle of the mountain and in the darkness we could see the muzzle flashes of rifles and machine-gun spitting bullets at us. I said a prayer.
Sgt.Maj. Basil Plumley of Columbus, Ga., met us at the landing zone, and led me back to Col. Moore’s command bunker.
” Watch your step,” Plumley said, ” There were dead people, all over here.” They were dead Americans many wrapped in ponchos.
At Day break Monday, Medical helicopters began landing and taking off again with the wounded.
A detail was assign the job of collecting weapons and ammunition from the wounded before they were evacuated.
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Jimmy D. Nakayama and James Clark walked to the Aid Station under their own power.
The Troops who did help Jimmy D. Nakayama and James Clark, Not Joe Lee Galloway!
Arturo Villarreal · Sidney Lanier High School
Sp 4 James Clark was not given any morphine by the medics. He came running towards my foxhole with his clothes on fire. I helped putting the fire out and I just gave him some saline solution. I took him to the CP and ask the doctor to give him something for the terrible pain, but the doctor told that they didn’t have anything to give him and he just told me to just keep giving him the saline solution.
++After some time pass, some helicopters landed and I put him aboard one of them.
Robert Saucedo should have been leaving the war. Instead, he was riding in the 16th helicopter in a formation high above the jungle on its way to the Ia Drang Valley.
Jimmy Nakayma died in flight,3 degree burns no other injuries. ie Crushed ankle.
“On the second day, they dropped a couple of napalms in the (landing zone), and a couple of guys
bringing in choppers – the engineers – they got burned,” he said with eyes distant.
++”They ran to our foxholes. We treated them for burns.”
++”We treated him for burns. His face was on fire. His weapon was on fire,” he said. “It was bad.
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What a great story! Loved the book “We Were Soldiers.” I will have to read this one as well.
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I have been trying to order an autographed copy of 30 days has September the last 10 days. I have the first 2 books and would like to purchase the last book.
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I agree thanking Him, we in Australia suffered the same problem, even my Son-In-Law called me and Baby Killer and my Wife a Whore for marrying me, this was the sort of attitude we were exposed to for years until 1987 and after. We in Australia banded together and formed our own self help groups which the Government finally took over, we were still fighting our Department of Veteran Affairs and the Governments of the day of both sides. We finally have a Royal Commission into the Suicides of our Veterans of the later Wars we have lost over 500 in the last four years.
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We Vietnam Veterans owe Joe Galloway an insurmountable debt of gratitude for his unending support for all Vietnam Veterans. The years during and the decade following Vietnam were particularly tough on those of us who continued wearing the uniform and tough on those who were known to be Vietnam Veterans. Thank you so much Joe Galloway for all you have done on our behalf. Dave Pearsall (‘Dustoff 22’, 45th Medical Co Air Ambulance Jul ’67-’68)
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Another hero was Betty Tisdale who lead the drive to evacuate orphans out of Saigon as the country was falling. It’s described in the movie, Children of An Lac” which starred by Shirley Jones.
Also one of those orphaned and polio children who was evacuated out to Australia, went on to become a hero to the disabled and poor children. His name was Peter Hoa Stone, also a friend of mine who died last week in Saigon, leaving a large school/compound to his efforts, of House of Grace.
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Excellent article. I was in Viet Nam ’68-’69(after Tet)and i agree there has been scant information re the Vietnamese.
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Joe is a real stand up guy. My pleasure to have served with him and Col. Crandoll
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