I first came in contact with Lisa Pett after she posted a comment to one of my blog articles about vets coming home after Vietnam. She said she was writing a school paper and needed some help about the topic. I informed her that I would post her request for help on my FB page and other veteran group pages, and that I was confident of a positive response. This is the original FB posting for help:
Hey Vietnam Vets – a little lady needs our help with her school paper! Please read her note below and respond directly to her email as she doesn’t have access to my FB accounts.
Hi john. Thanks so much for offering to help! The main problem with this situation is time. My paper is due Friday and while I already have it 90% finished, I would LOVE to revise it with feedback from your veteran friends. I realize we will receive limited response since this is last minute, but even if it doesn’t make it into my paper I would love to learn anyways. My two main questions are:
1) How were you treated by family members, friends, your community or strangers when you first found out you were to be sent to Vietnam? And how did you feel about going?
2) How were you treated by family, friends, strangers, etc when you returned home?
I am really lacking in responses about how they were treated BEFORE the war but of course am interested in their treatment after. Thank you so much for your help!
Later that same day, Lisa posted to my FB page with the following:
John, I’m the “little lady” who you are helping I wanted to let you know that in the past few hours I have 23 emails! I am so excited and emotional as I read through them. This is the most meaningful assignment I have ever been a part of and I am so grateful to you for helping me find people who are willing to share their story. Thank you to all of you who have responded!
Little did I know at the time that Lisa wasn’t a college teenager, instead, she’s the same age as my daughter, married and a mother to 4 children. She’s returned to college now that the kids are all in school and plans to finish her degree.
This morning, I received the following email from Lisa:
I have attached two things. One is my actual assignment – which is a pretty boring read since it’s a research paper – but nonetheless it is there. I have also attached a self-assigned 2nd essay which allowed me to express some of the things I could not in the research paper.I cannot thank you or the others enough for helping me. My professor was excited to read the paper and for the way the information was being given to me. And FYI, I scored a 98%… highest in the class 🙂
I was intrigued by her research paper and found it quite interesting. All the notes and references are removed and I also took the liberty of adding the pictures to compliment her work. Enjoy:
Current day welcome – most soldiers returning home as a unit after their deployment
Over the years, American war veterans have typically been received home with a hero’s welcome. They are greeted by family, friends, and townspeople and even celebrated in parades as an expression of gratitude for their service. However, for a large portion of veterans of the Vietnam War, their experiences returning home were far from this warm welcome. This paper will examine the positive and negative experiences of Vietnam veterans as they returned to their homes after completing their service. This will occur through the use of personal interviews, first hand accounts and research articles.
As the war in Vietnam escalated in the late 1960’s and through the early 1970’s, many Americans became doubtful about the involvement of the United States in Vietnam. Protests began to arise and become increasingly popular and common.
Burning draft cards in 1967
Young men of draft age would burn their draft cards in protest and preferred serving time in jail over serving time overseas. In October of 1967, over 100,000 protesters marched at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C. The National Guard killed four anti-war protestors at Kent University and police at Jackson State University killed two others.
Washington DC
The protests spread to over 350 colleges and universities. Even some soldiers in Vietnam rebelled against the war, wearing peace symbols on their uniforms, refusing orders and assaulting officers. Thousands of soldiers deserted the army. This tension over the war made the United States a difficult place to return to after the war.
Kent State Protests after four students are killed by National Guard troops
According to a study done by David Flores in the Sociological Forum, in which Vietnam veterans were interviewed about their experiences before and after the war, veterans remember feeling a sense of patriotism from their parents’ involvement in World War II. Many of them grew up hearing stories of the war and attending parades honoring veterans of World War II. They developed a feeling that America was the “best country in the world” and that Communism was a threat to the American way of living. This sense contributed to their feeling of duty to protect the country they loved. Veteran “Sam” described his experience before the war. “My general opinion was that I was very lucky to be in the best country in the world, that everybody wanted to be like us, that we knew everything, that we were the smartest, and that we were the best, and that we had the right to make everyone else like us.” Many more were inspired to follow the example of their fathers or uncles who had served in World War II.
World War II Victory Parade in New York City, 1946
Veteran Jeff Goodendorf describes his father as “my idol/mentor and friend and he had served in WWII for 4 years and I, as an only son, wanted to prove I was worthy of his name.” Similarly, Veteran Bruce Allen’s father and uncles served in World War II and felt that “if you’re American and we have a conflict, everybody ought to take their turn.” Family patriotism was only one of the reasons that soldiers felt compelled to go to Vietnam. Some were forced to go due to the draft and others, like Tex Howard, just wanted to get out on their own and “the Army seemed like a good way to do this.”
Others felt a sense of duty to serve their country. Alex, a combat veteran from Michigan, grew up in a town where nearly everyone served their country. He expected his draft notice and was prepared to go when he received it. He did not have a strong political point of view but rather was serving due to a sense of patriotism, not politics.
Regardless of the reason each soldier had for serving his country in Vietnam, a large majority of them share a similarity in their experiences returning home. According to personal interviews with 25 veterans, approximately 92% of them experienced an overall negative experience returning home from serving their country. They returned home to various parts of the country, from major cities in the East and West, to small towns in the Midwest or South. They were frequently called names such as “baby killer” or “murderer” and spit on.
Several were physically altercated, including Burnett McManus who “even had one lady tell her little boy to kick me, which he quickly did.” McManus was also denied the right to rent a car, had his camera stolen in front of a police officer who did not assist him, and was also called names. Others, such as Kevin DeCantillon, proudly wore his dress uniform to church upon arriving home and described the moment that “no one would sit next to me during the service. I had grown up in that church. A woman spit on me while I was standing on the steps of the church. No one said anything…In uniform I was invisible or derided.” The uniform worn by the soldiers seemed to have given civilians the feeling that they could treat the veterans any way they wished. Soldiers were strongly advised at the airport to remove their uniforms as quickly as possible and wear civilian clothes in public to avoid conflict. The uniform invited conflict or negative feelings and memories for some of the soldiers, such as Ron Holz. He explains, “when I returned home I was treated so badly that I let my hair grow long, hid all of my military clothing so no one would know that I was a Vietnam Veteran, and I never talked about Vietnam to anyone. I never even wore my uniform to my brother’s funeral.”
For some, the treatment was so terrible that it felt more hostile to them in the United States than it did overseas. Dan Mahoney, who had to be escorted past protestors by police, lamented that “the treatment at home, I think, did more damage than the war did.” Author and Veteran John Podlaski recalled, “What if I told you that my reoccurring nightmare isn’t about encounters with enemy soldiers on foreign soil, but of a single incident that took place right here in the United States with my own countrymen? That’s right, it’s about my homecoming after serving honorably for a year in the Vietnam War.”
For Goodendorf, the negativity spread beyond strangers to people he interacted with. He described a time in college during a course where students were asked to do an oral report on a foreign culture. He reported on Vietnam, due to his extensive experience there. He recollected, “Shortly after I started my presentation, the class started leaving, including the professor. Finally, I stood in front of an empty classroom feeling foolish and angry at the same time. I didn’t go back to that class and dropped it from my curriculum. Humiliating.” His wife at the time refused to let anyone know that he had served in Vietnam. He states that she made him “ashamed to be a Vet. She eventually threw away my ribbons and medals, my dog tags, some of my uniforms and pictures.” DeCantillon also endured verbal abuse from people he knew. “An acquaintance in my old neighborhood verbally attacked and abused me for being a ‘baby-killing war monger’. I was just 17 years-old.”
Some veterans were fortunate enough to defy the majority of experiences, and received welcoming comments from strangers. In Maryland, Tony Chliek frequently wore his uniform in order to receive discounted train rides for soldiers in uniform. People traveling on the train, usually World War II or Korean War veterans, often bought him drinks “because they appreciated my service.” Allen was only welcomed home by his family, but the reception in the Salt Lake City Airport was peaceful and he did not encounter any negativity. For Allen, the frustrating part was not the negative reactions he occasionally received elsewhere, but rather the incorrect information being used against him. For example, he heard accusations of Americans intentionally bombing hospitals, schools and temples. Contrary to that, Allen explains, “I flew over 100 missions and not once was I programmed to bomb a hospital or school.”
Soldier rescues two children that have come under fire from North Vietnamese troops during the 1968 Tet Offensive, 1968
For many, the wounds and emotions still run very deep for Vietnam veterans. Yet, the pain for some has subsided over time, due to the change in feeling and behavior towards the veterans. For Charlie Cirillo, the first welcome home came in college. “For me my first official ‘welcome home’ came in May of 1979, at my Commencement exercises from college. The college president had all us Vietnam Vets stand up and be recognized. That was a great feeling.” Some states are carrying out “welcome home” parades for the veterans, nearly 40 years since the soldiers returned home initially. Others, such as California, Connecticut, Delaware, Minnesota and Wisconsin have established a day to honor or “welcome home” Vietnam veterans. Utah Governor Gary Herbert signed a resolution during the first ever Utah Vietnam Veteran’s Recognition Day ceremony on March 30, 2015, which urged citizens to “express appropriate support for Vietnam veterans, no matter the political disagreements over the war, and states a ‘heartfelt, belated welcome home’ to all Vietnam veterans.”
A parade held in Chicago, Illinois saw 200,000 veterans marching in a 3-mile long parade lined with approximately 500,000 spectators. The parade provided an opportunity for people like Loral Valley to make reparations. “Today, it’s like a catharsis. It’s a way to say I’m sorry I didn’t support them then.”
Welcome Home Vietnam Veteran Parade in Chicago, 1986. This is VVA Chapter #154 Color Guard…I am in the second row – second from the right (John)
At another parade in Delaware, veteran Paul Davis was able to receive some comfort as the crowd thanked him for his service. “The crowd was saying, ‘Thank you,’ and I get choked up even right now saying that. There was not one Vietnam veteran who didn’t have tears running down their face, including myself. It was our greatest day.”
In conclusion, there was one thing that all 25 interviewees shared in common in their responses– an expression of gratitude. Their gratitude was expressed that people would still be interested in what happened to them “after all this time.” Some mentioned that being able to talk about it brought them a small amount of relief, releasing years of frustration and hurt. The emotional injuries brought upon them by the treatment they received from fellow Americans rivaled the pain some of them felt remembering the horrors of the war. Perhaps veteran Dennis Howland stated it best that the lesson to be learned from all of this is that “Vietnam veterans are dedicated to ensuring that veterans of today’s wars do not come home receiving the same treatment. Never again.”
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As a History Education Major, I was assigned to research a topic occurring in United States history after 1865. The topic could not be broad, such as “The 60’s” or “The Great Depression.” It needed to be a specific element of a period in time. Because my uncle served as a para-rescuer in the Air Force in Vietnam, I quickly decided to research something about the Vietnam War. Growing up, I never heard him talk about it, and in all fairness, I never asked about it either. All I knew was that it was a sensitive subject and I wanted to avoid causing him any pain. One thing that I did remember hearing about, however, was the way he was treated when he returned home. This became my topic.
I have been asked to publish my paper for all of you who were kind enough to help me in my research but as I wrote, I found myself frequently frustrated due to the format of the assignment. The assignment forced me to report on my research in a “scientific” kind of way; in other words, without my personal opinion or feelings brought into it. But as I read through 25 emails that streamed into my inbox, I couldn’t imagine writing about this without including my thoughts and emotions. So here comes “assignment” #2: my own assignment, which will allow me to express to you what I could not in my original paper.
Your emails brought tears to my eyes, repeatedly. Sometimes while typing your quotes into my research paper, I could not see through my tears. I am a fairly patriotic person, particularly after two recent trips to our nation’s capitol where I was able to visit the war memorials and bring my mom there to visit as well. Due to those trips, I finally chose a major to pursue. (It took me awhile-I’m a 36 year old mother of 4 who went back to school after the kids started school as well.) As I read of the horrible things people would say to you, the people that would spit on you or hit you, I couldn’t believe how often it happened. I KNEW it happened because I had heard my uncle mention it. But literally seeing email after email after email stream in with the same stories, I was saddened – both for you and for those who had been blinded or unwilling to see the truth, which was that you were young men sent into an impossible situation to do an impossible thing and left you with an impossible burden to carry.
Here is why I write to you now. Each and every one of you thanked me for my interest in the matter and I felt overwhelmed with emotion as I read that. I hope that you can see that while your own generation may not have given you the reception you deserve, your sacrifice is NOT lost on the future generations. Your story matters and should be told, so that we don’t let it happen again. Your sacrifice deserves honor and respect and while I cannot go back in time and force the nation to give it to you the way you deserved it, I can give you MY honor and MY respect now. Be at peace if only for a moment, knowing that there are people now who think of you and who are grateful to you. And that there are people now who want to tell your story in hopes of sparing our future veterans the pain you endured and endure now. The debt can never be paid but we can attempt to relieve it by carrying it with you.
With much gratitude for your help in this assignment and for your service,
Lisa Pett
This is my response to Mrs. Lisa Pett after reading both:
OMG Lisa, you did a wonderful job on both reports and in such a short period of time! I experienced chills while reading your personal thoughts – the words tugging at my heart. Some divine power had to guide you to my blog where you asked for help. The various veteran groups that I belong to are anxious to help whenever asked, so I wasn’t surprised by the feedback you received after posting your request on the various group pages…
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I appreciate all the comments. I cannot believe it was nearly 5 years ago that I wrote this. It is still very near and dear to me! I am grateful that I found John’s blog those years ago.
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WOW, a great essay. I was a career soldier and did two tours in Nam. I already knew of the less than welcoming reception that I could possibly receive on my returns, and yes there was some harassment both times, which I expected and in the long term it didn’t bother me. But what did hurt, and still does to some extent happened where I least expected it.
In January 1973 when I returned from my second tour, on the way to my next assignment I went to see my parents who live in the South in a dry county (no alcoholic beverages sold to the public). However you could get a beer at a private club or group like a hunting of fishing club or one of the various veteran’s organizations. During a trip into town I decided to stop by the local VFW for a beer. I entered, showed my military ID card and ordered a beer. The bartender mumbled something, got me a beer then took it to the end of the bar away from where I was standing, the said, “Drink your beer then leave, you Vietnam people aren’t welcome here.” Here I was, a VETERAN who had just returned home from a FOREIGN WAR and I was not welcome among other veterans. I was shocked. I was hurt. I was speechless. I left the beer on the bar and walked out. Since that day I have never darkened the door of a VFW.
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That also happen me in 1969 at a local VFW post . I was told Vietnam Vets were not welcome and there was no membership for us. I just wanted to hook up with other Vietnam Vets.
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Dear Mrs. Pett,
In the early to mid 80’s syndicated columnist Bob Green from the Chicago Tribune wrote an article about this issue. I think it’s called Homecoming. I sent him my experiences after I returned home. He received so many letters from veterans that he put them in that book.
Not only did the war leave scars on the bodies and minds of returning veterans, but the experiences they had upon coming home drove them further into depression. Is it any wonder we have been ashamed to say we are veterans of that war?
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Lisa Pett, Your article was excellent. Thank you for writing it. I have a special interest in it, and a long story to tell of why that is so. But my reasons have led me to writing a blog where I tell of Vietnam veterans and the KIA from Vietnam, of which my uncle was one. I will not stop telling their stories. I get slowed down due to life, but I come back to it. There are many stories to tell………….
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It brought tears to my eyes as I read your article. Yes, I was spit on in San Francisco and it took a lot of discipline to not retaliate to it. When I got home, the Mayor of out town and also a classmates dad stated to my Mother-in-law that I was one that shouldn’t have make it home from Vietnam. After I got out of the Marine Corps, I never wore a uniform again and until I joined the American Legion 12 years ago, I put it all behind me and kept it all bottled up. I did take advantage of the VA for my health care and have been treated for my PTSD, Anger Management and Agent Orange. Thank god for the VA. I feel sorry for all the men and women that served and were kicked aside by their own country during the Vietnam War. We were not responsible for what we did for our country and then we gave Vietnam away. I recently went on an Honor Flight to Washington DC and I stood proud in front of the Vietnam Wall and all other Memorials. I am a Marine Corps Vietnam Veteran and am proud of it. Gene
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Kudos and a heartfelt salute to you, Sir, and all who served! Thank you for your dedicated service and ultimate patriotism.
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Hi John and fellow readers. Two quick updates, one wonderful and one sad. First, I am starting an internship in the fall teaching 7th and 8th grade history and will graduate after completing the internship 🙂 This assignment remains my most memorable and rewarding assignment ever given.
Sadly, the second update is that the uncle I spoke of in my “self-assigned” essay passed away a few short months ago. He was a PJ and was honored so beautifully by his Vietnam Vet motorcycle clubs. I have attended several funerals of differing varieties in my life, but this one had a different feeling to it. Besides the fact that it was my uncle who I loved and admired so much, this funeral had a tremendous sense of respect and gratitude toward the deceased. Everyone there knew what he had experienced on some level, either through personal experience or learning through the experiences of others. He risked his life so that others might live and he probably would have hated having the recognition for doing so.
Again I thank those of you who have served our country in many capacities. Your service is appreciated beyond expression.
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Mrs. Pett,
Thank you for what you have written. I did not go to Vietnam, but was in the Philippines during that time in support of our units that were there. I remember coming home on leave and sitting in the airport in LA waiting to go back to Michigan. The things I saw and the people caused me to ask the night janitor what country was I in as everything was different. I’ll never forget what he said when I asked him, was this really the United States I left two years ago? He said, “Unfortunately it is”. When I finally got home people were all talking about how we should never have gone to Vietnam and how they felt about anyone who was in the military. Sometime after I was discharged I paid a visit to the Wall in Washington. There I found the names of guys I grew up with and stood next to in high school. I found names of my friends Dad as well. I really didn’t care what anyone had to say about that war, those names made it all real to me. For those that have a problem with it, let them stand at the Wall and see how all those names touch family and friends that gave their lives so we can be free. Thank you all that served in Nam during those long years. You all are heroes.
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When I came home from Vietnam in 1972 , I was not physically assaulted but I could sense a low grade of resentment. I was wary of telling anybody that I was a vet although I never really tried to hide it. For me there was a real sense of isolation. I could not relate to my family and friends, not because I was ostracized or shamed by them but because my experiences were so different from theirs in the year and a half that I was gone. I had seen so much and they were still going on with their lives and had not changed very much. It was me that had changed.
It was difficult for me to give up wearing my jungle boots because they were so comfortable and as time went on, I realized that other vets were doing the same thing. It turned into a way for us to recognize each other and became a great way to find people that we could relate to.
After 35 years I still feel kind of shy talking about being a vet. Now that everyone seems to want to make amends, I feel that I don’t want to take advantage or aggrandize my time in Vietnam.
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Thank you for your sacrifice and welcome home, brother!
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Cherries – A Vietnam War Novel wrote:
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This is a very personal tribute to the Vietnam Veterans. Let the truth be known that the American public felt this way toward us Veterans because of all the falsified reporting by the media. Having been in country and returning to watch some of the news reports the blatant distorted reports seemed
to be for the purpose of degrading the American military ! I guess the control of the media hasn’t changed much.
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Jim, you are the first person that I have heard say that. Upon returning home, my thoughts were the same as yours. I had not trusted the news ever since ’72.
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Thank you for your kind comments. I wanted to quickly clarify something. I DO realize that some Veterans were not harassed and that some were welcomed home under more favorable conditions. I mentioned that very briefly in my paper.
Thank you again for sharing your stories.
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Well done! Thank you! USAF “72-76 SEA ’75-76 Fall of Saigon April 30th,1975.
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I have been coming back and re-reading this “assignment” for three days and I am still in Awe of the great job Lisa did! An amazing young women!
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I just read this paper and I am so proud that someone took the time to do this. My cousin returned from active combat in Vietnam before I was born. His tragedy was unfolding before I took my first breath. It is incomprehensible to me that so many American men (boys) were drafted ( forced) to go to Vietnam and , subsequently, come home with heads tucked in shame. Shame on the ignorant American civillians who treated these soldiers so horribly. For crying out loud, it was the first war that was unsensored in the media. Full coverage day and night and theVietnam vets payed the price… My cousin is broken still. He sits quietly with a beer in his hand and has done so for years when I visit him in Kentucky. My father narrowly escaped tthe draft, having been A1, in 1965. He was an only son. He was lucky. I
I have no idea who may read this , but to all the Vietnam vets, I salute you infinitely. You are appreciated, respected and loved…. God bless you all…
Sam Savage
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A friend and fellow Vietnam veteran said, “It is hard to feel honorable about your service when your nation views you as dishonorable.”
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THANKS TO YOUR RECIEVING US AS WE ARE-PROUD TO HAVE SERVED-01/07/1969 TO 02/07/1970
I COULDNOT SEE ANY WORDS ABOUT BEING SPRAYED & BETRAYED WITH AGENT ORANGE!
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This type of article really helps to foster more division and misunderstanding while perpetuating the myth that ALL returning VN vets were spit on and called “baby killers”. One cannot compare the situation of returning vets from VN with those from WW2 mostly because hundreds of military men returned on huge transport/troop ships from overseas (the Pacific and Europe) so it was easy to host parades, etc. When VN vets returned, they often came alone or in small groups on airplanes- in the middle of the night- many arriving in San Fran only to get on a bus or plane to their homes. San Fran was a beehive of anti-war activity throughout the war so it stands to reason that unpleasant encounters would occur.
But what about the government that SENDS young men to war? Isn’t it THEIR responsibility to ensure a safe and honorable return? Since when is it the responsibility of ordinary citizens to welcome troops back? The fact is, there were many, many warm homecomings around the country in small towns and neighborhoods.
It is a shame that this stuff is being promoted all these years later. The division of the Vietnam war generation doesn’t need to be widened almost 50 years down the road.
We know we’re taking a big risk by making this comment- the truth is, a country that does NOT support its veterans when they return, slashing benefits, operating a half-a**ed VA system, ignoring sicknesses caused by the exposure to chemicals (Agent Orange) and depleted uranium as in the case of Iraq veterans and a multitude of other issues, with tens of thousands of veterans living on the streets with no jobs and untreated PTSD, it is hard to understand the level of “patriotism” that exists at all.
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Enjoyed both VERY good articles. I served Nam to just before Desert Shield. When I came back to the World it was packing a .45 & I and my partners were escorting prisoners to Ft. Leavenworth and the USARB at Ft. Riley after which most of us took leave-enroute to our next duty stations. I’d guess that the line of cuffed prisoners escorted by armed MP’s tended to discourage fools from messing with us. Later on I had some negative responses but pretty much ignored them. I’d have to describe my enlisting as due to family patriotism and sense of duty both. All of the eligible adults of my parent’s generation, male and female both, served so in a sense my NOT serving wasn’t a question. Myself and 5 of my cousins also served covering all the svcs except the Coasties. Not sorry I served either.
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Addend-To use a word I have never used KUDOS TOYOU LADY. Please let us know when you are due to graduate!
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Excellent! Appreciate the interest from a younger person who evidently is searching for understanding of the social conflict that has brought America to where it is now. She must have a sense of a given mission and as John Podlaski has said-she was guided to this site. Much respect for this seeker of truth because that is the only way we may correct the self destructive path our country has gone down the passed 25 years!
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John,
I, like Lisa, am not surprised and unaware of the homecoming situations of our Vietnam veterans. Still, I now have both goosebumps and even more tears to shed as the tears are tears of honor and respect.
Well deserved at the least, needless to say.
I normally have much to say about our veterans, however, for once I’m just about speechless! Combat experience; threat to life, witnessing the worst of horrors, losing one or several friends, and I’m stopping here on combat because you know, so many losses to be felt and grieved, and honored; the aftermath of deployment, disintegration of the family system, employment/financial problems, loss of non-military friendships; etc….it shamefully continues on.
I know that the biggest storm is coming home and absolutely mostly for our Vietnam veterans, as is the subject. For most combat veterans, their version of reality is accurate. The world is unpredictable, unsafe, unmanageable ….IT IS MOST OF US WHO ARE MISINFORMED, and that hurts you. I have witnessed their sorrow as a trustworthy civilian and volunteer. But this is not about me.
I write. I write poetry, prose, and articles mostly about PTSD on various sites on FB.
And, Oh Man! Lisa’s work in effort and her writings beat most of what I’ve ever read.
Thank you, Lisa.
Thank you, John.
For INFORMING many! You have each made a difference bigger than yourselves.
With all due love and respect,
Robin Favelli
p.s. Using my phone, I was unable to press “HERE”, to give you the information you’d like about me. I’m sorry about that and I’ll try again.
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Her initial assignment was fantastic on it’s own. But…her 2nd assignment was the truly amazing one. Her emotions are right there, how so many feel. It was like she spoke for all of us who have known someone that faced those times and even others with enough empathy in their heart who didn’t. Everyone needs to thank a veteran.
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We have learned nothing nor have we truly changed anything since the NAM… Young men are still sent off to fight in undeclared wars where politicians are already arguing over the exit policy???… Never again bros’…??? What BS-people!
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Excellent article ,a job well done, I will now make you an Honorary Vietnam Grunt, thank You for doing this article, it means a lot to a lot of Vietnam Veterans.
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Well Done.. !!!
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AMAZING
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