This article is bound to upset many readers, especially when learning about Cuba’s involvement with the American POWs in North Vietnam. I wonder how much of this our government actually knew. Read about their involvement here:
By former Chief Editor of TWS, Lt Col Michael Christy
The extent of military contributions by communist Cuba and its communist dictator, Fidel Castro, to the North Vietnamese effort during the Vietnam War, is a murky matter that remains officially unresolved. Then and now, neither the communist governments of Vietnam nor Cuba have divulged any information on this matter while maintaining a cloud of secrecy around their cooperative efforts. But there is no question that at the very least, there was a sizable contingent of Cuban military advisors present in North Vietnam during the war.

Several reports indicate that Cuban fighter pilots were even flying MIGs in aerial combat with American pilots over North Vietnam. One American advisor flying in a Sikorsky H-34 helicopter even used an M-79 grenade launcher to shoot down a Cuban flying a biplane in Northern Laos. This was the same kind of plane used in the attack against Lima Site 85 – the top-secret base in Laos providing guidance for American planes in the bombing of North Vietnam.
Among these Cuban advisors was a large contingent of several thousand combat engineers called the “Giron Brigade,” that was maintaining Route Nine (better known as the “Ho Chi Minh Trail”), the supply line running from North Vietnam through Laos and Cambodia to South Vietnam. The contingent was so large, Cuba established a consulate in the jungle to support them. Engineers from this same unit were building the airport in Grenada when American forces overran it, and they suffered 84 casualties and 638 captured, small consolation for what they are reported to have inflicted on U.S. Forces in Vietnam.
Many Americans serving in both Vietnam and Laos were captured or killed along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and most likely, many by the hands of Cubans. One National Security Agency Signet report states that 18 American POWs were detained at the Phom Thong Camp in Laos, where they were closely guarded by Soviet and Cuban personnel, with Vietnamese soldiers outside the camp.

The most alarming and horrendous of Cuba’s involvements in the war in Vietnam was the torturing of American POWs, some of whom died from their beatings. The full extent of what happened became clear after a number of the POWs who returned home in Feb. 1973 told others what they had seen or heard in what became known as the “Cuban Program,” which was the name given by its victims to the separation of 19 American POWs from the Vietnamese POW system and their subsequent interrogation and torture by a small group of Caucasians who spoke English with an apparent Spanish accent, had an excellent knowledge of Central America, and at least one seemed to have spent some time in the southeastern United States.
The “Cuban Program” was initiated around August 1967 at the Cu Loc POW camp known as “The Zoo,” a former French movie studio on the southwestern edge of Hanoi. The American POWs gave their Cuban torturers the names “Fidel,” “Chico,” “Pancho” and “Garcia” The Vietnamese camp commander was given the name “The Lump” because of a fatty tumor growth in the middle of his forehead. He and various other Vietnamese cadre were often present during the brutal torture sessions administered by the Cubans. According to POW debriefing reports, “The Lump” told a group of POWs that the “Cuban Program” was a Hanoi University Psychological Study.

“Fidel,” the Cuban leader of the “Cuban Program” was described in debriefing reports as a “professional interrogator” According to an expert on Cuba, “Fidel’s” profile fits that of Cuban Dr. Miguel Angel Bustamente-O’Leary, President of the Cuban Medical Association. Bustamente is said to be an expert at extracting confessions through torture, and was compared to the infamous Nazi, Dr. Joseph Mengele.
According to the same expert, “Chico’s” profile fits that of Maj. Fernando Vecino Alegret and it was stated in two intelligence reports that his “un-Cuban appearance” caused speculation that he was actually a Soviet Bloc officer (possibly Czech) in a Cuban uniform.
“Fidel” and “Chico” weren’t the only Cubans who were involved with American POWs. As part of their propaganda program, Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish-born psychologist, interviewed Lt. John Sidney McCain Jr. (later U.S. Senator) for an article published in Cuba’s house-organ Granma on January 24, 1970. Barral was a card-carrying communist Internationale residing in Cuba and traveling on a Cuban passport.

Several other documents confirm that CIA analysts identified two Cuban military attaches, Eduardo Morjon Esteves (who reportedly served under diplomatic cover as a brigadier general at the United Nations in New York in 1977-78 with no attempt being made to either arrest or expel him), and Luis Perez Jaen, who respectively had backgrounds that seemed to correspond with information on Fidel and Chico, as supplied by returning POWs. However, unless the Cubans were overconfident, it is highly unlikely that those who participated in the “Cuban Program” would have used their actual names when serving in a professional capacity, since it is standard practice in undercover intelligence operations to use new identities.
Following his release, Maj. Jack Bomar, a Zoo survivor, described the brutal beating of Capt. Earl G. Cobeil, an F-105F EWO (Electronics Warfare Officer), by Cuban Maj. Fernando Vecino Alegret, known by the POWs as “Chico”: The sight of Cobeil stunned Bomar. He stood transfixed, trying to make himself believe that human beings could so batter another human being. The man could barely walk; he shuffled slowly, painfully. His clothes were torn to shreds. He was bleeding everywhere, terribly swollen, and a dirty, yellowish black and purple from head to toe. The man’s head was down; he made no attempt to look at anyone. He had been through much more than the day’s beatings.

His body was ripped and torn everywhere: “hell-cuffs” (which are applied to cut off circulation during what is known as the “Vietnamese rope trick,” where the arms are repeatedly cinched up behind the POW’s back until the elbows are forced together, then if the excruciating pain of applying the “hell-cuffs” don’t achieve the desired result, the arms are rotated upward further until the shoulders dislocate) appeared to have nearly severed his wrists; strap marks still wound around his arms all the way to the shoulders; slivers of bamboo were embedded in his bloodied shins; and there were what appeared to be tread marks from water hose beatings across his chest, back and legs.
As Cobeil related to Bomar, during the beating Fidel had smashed a fist into Cobeil’s face, driving him against the wall. Then he was brought to the center of the room and made to get down onto his knees. Screaming in rage, Fidel took a length of rubber hose from a guard and lashed it as hard as he could into Cobeil’s face. Cobeil did not react; he did not cry out or even blink an eye. Again and again, a dozen times, Fidel smashed his face with the hose. Because he was so grotesquely mangled, Capt. Cobeil was never repatriated alive, but instead was listed as “died in captivity” His remains were returned in 1974.
Air Force ace Maj. James Kasler was also tortured for days on end during June 1968. “Fidel” beat Kasler across the buttocks with a large truck fan belt until “he tore my rear end to shreds.” For one three-day period, Kasler was beaten with the fan belt every hour from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. and kept awake at night. “My mouth was so bruised that I could not open my teeth for five days.” After one beating, Kasler’s buttocks, lower back, and legs hung in shreds. The skin had been entirely whipped away and the area was a bluish, purplish, greenish mass of bloody raw meat.

Much less is known about 17 captured airmen taken to Cuba for “experimentation in torture techniques” They were held in Havana’s Los Maristas, a secret Cuban prison run by Castro’s G-2 Intelligence service. A few were held in the Mazorra (Psychiatric) Hospital and served as human guinea pigs used to develop improved methods of extracting information through “torture and drugs to induce American prisoners to cooperate”
After being shot down in April of 1972, U.S. Navy F-4 pilot, Lt. Clemmie McKinney, an African-American, was imprisoned near the Cuban compound called Work Site Five. His capture occurred while then-Cuban president Fidel Castro was visiting the nearby Cuban field hospital. Although listed as killed in the crash by DOD, his photograph standing with Castro was later published in a classified CIA document.
More than 13 years later, on August 14, 1985, the North Vietnamese returned Lt. McKinney’s remains, reporting that he died in November 1972. However, a U.S, Army forensic anthropologist established the “time of death as not earlier than 1975 and probably several years later” The report speculated that he had been a guest at Havana’s Los Maristas prison, with his remains returned to Vietnam for repatriation. Unfortunately, our servicemen held in the Cuban POW camp near Work Site Five (Cong Truong Five), along with those in two other Cuban run camps were neither acknowledged nor accounted for, and the prisoners simply disappeared forever.

Conspicuously absent from the Operation Homecoming release in 1973 were POWs suffering from severe war wounds (amputees) and mental illnesses, leading analysts to believe these were among those permanently imprisoned in North Vietnam and Cuba, for ongoing experimentation and collaboration efforts after being broken by torture, drugs, and brainwashing.
The matter of the known prisoners of war held by Vietnam and Cuba whose remains have never been returned has been a major issue for their families. If our honor code of “Duty, Honor, Country,” and our national policy of “No man left behind,” are more than meaningless slogans, Cuba’s murderous leadership must account for our POWs – especially the 17 airmen taken to Cuba. The civilized world and American veterans demand it, and their families deserve it.
There are those still working tirelessly toward finding a resolution to our missing heroes. On March 28, 2016, Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Department of Defense to obtain records about American POWs who may have been held captive by Cuban government or military forces on the island of Cuba.
The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Defense, No. 1:16-CV-00151).
This suit was filed after the Defense Department failed to comply with a June 1, 2015, FOIA request seeking “Any and all records depicting the names, service branch, ranks, Military Occupational Specialty, and dates and locations of capture of all American servicemen believed to have been held captive by Cuban government or military forces on the island of Cuba since 1960.”
Responding to the suit, the Department of Defense initially claimed to have no responsive records.
(Sources: Miami Herald, August 22, 1999, and testimony by Michael D. Benge, before the House International Relations Committee, Chaired by the Honorable Benjamin A. Gilman, on November 4, 1999)
Editor’s Note:
When I reported to the 5th Special Forces headquarters in Nha Trang in Nov 1967, I was sent to get a Glama goblin shot. While waiting in the room for the medic to arrive, I noticed a movable hospital curtain. Curious, I looked behind the curtain and saw two bodies wearing non-described uniforms laying on gurneys. Both were dark-skinned with long black hair. When the medic came in, I asked about the bodies. He told me a Special Forces recon team operating in Laos near the Ho Chi Ming trail got into a firefight resulting in them killing some NVA and the two whose bodies were on the gurneys. Realizing the two were not Vietnamese, they gathered them up and carried them through the jungle to a place where they made an emergency extraction. The medic said the general consensus was the two were Cubans. He added that Russian soldiers were also helping the North Vietnamese as one of their bodies had also been recovered by a recon team a couple of months before.
This article appeared in “Together We Served Dispatches Newsletter”. Here is the direct link: https://army.togetherweserved.com/army/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=DispatchesArchive&type=NewsArticle&ID=773
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It only proves how valid the decision made by IKE and JFK to get involved in Vietnam actually was. The let’s concept that Vietnam was “just an internal revolution” was mere mythical wishful thinking. Had we just stood by and watched, the world would be a much more cruel and Communistic place.
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Very interesting.
Milton Taylor EO-2 DaNang, Vietnam 1968-69
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Very interesting.
Milton Taylor EO-2 DaNang, Vietnam 1968-69
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Jim,
Great article! I served with G 2/4, 3rd Marine Div. as a 0311 grunt in ICorps, DMZ areas of S. Vietnam 1968-1969. After finding a Chinese Soldier’s cap inside a cave on FSB Neville we knew the NVA had help from other countries. I often thought if the NVA had some of our POW’s sent to Russia and China as they did to Cuba?
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I believe the Air America shoot down of the NVN Biplane was done from an H1 with an M14 or Carbine not an M79 from an H34…Just sayin….
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I heard that they could bomb 1 mile of the trail if this is true why.did they do this I was in. Vietnam at hamburger Hill we took it and they gave it back after 3 weeks this over look the trail they knew there were Cuba there
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There always seems to be someone’s fingers in the war pie. Sadistic actions never seem to be reported to the general public or soldiers. Those that don’t survive are left like trash or returned for a finder’s fee. If you go to bring back your comrades in arms, you go alone so the government will not be seen as participating in any further action against the “loser”. Any further action could begin the conflict again. The human need to be top dog seems to be the motivation to win against any other human being.
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Hmm, some Pooh-bears here getting caught up on Oliver Stone’s line about a thousand years of Vietnamese fight for freedom. Ah, not exactly, the people in the approximate area had such things as the Khmer Empire, powerful and lasting for hundreds of years. They did will enough and fighting is not about to go away. (And a note to pdoggbiker…note how the
“wokster” crowd fumbles its way across your pages.) And this article brings back a memory of a Paris-Match (French magazine) article in the early 80’s that showed American prisoners yet in cages. I thought it was made up. But with articles like this…there is work to be done. And not how none of the negative blabbermouths cared a tiny whit about the POW’s. Certainly the fit the narrative of true cowards.
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Well I suppose Im the “pooh-bear”, what ever that is supposed to mean, but Stone and his movie and his political screeds did not arrive until well after the war was over. But as I say, above, histories of the area detail that the Viets’ fought invasions of the Chinese from the north time and time again….and beat them. Celebrated names of Viet leaders in ancient times, including two sisters who led a resistance, are well known to the Viets. And as the “wokster” who woke to this actual history, Im more than proud to have fumbled through a decade of protest to our war there. I didnt want 60,000 American dead. Maybe you did….
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One notes nada on your understanding but merely a harking back to a muddied past. Plus, to define further for you: PB is a soft bunny hopper at all times and sure misses any hard points. So, still hung up on a past that had proud warriors and you denigrate their memory with your “street battles”? Come on, why not include pictures of you spray painting the Vietnam Memorial in DC. That would make your day.
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Well this is really it. You a-hole, I got more respect for American dead than you do because I didnt want them dead. Ive tried to talk to you like you might actually have some insight. It tough to see very far with you head up you ass. Over and out….
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Well, you do have an anal fascination coming out here. Maybe watching too much of the latest chess championships? Ah, you’ll get the joke….
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read about this 40ty years ago do i believe it yes i do some of our pilots were sent to Russia for information about our B52 and other aircraft flight patterns and so forth
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Very good 👍
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Thanks
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This article is probably the most detailed I have read about Cuba’s involvement in Vietnam. I myself have long known about Cuba’s assistance to North Vietnam both from my own military service and personal research.
The first time I myself was aware of Cuba’s Vietnam involvement was from an article I saw years ago in of all places, Soldier of Fortune magazine. It described the interrogator “Fidel” in great detail, and even published a pair of photographs alleged to be that of the Cuban advisor.
It is a good thing that the true facts about the extensive Communist support to North Vietnam are finally being made public. Along with Cuba, China, the Soviet Union, North Korea, East Germany, and Czechoslovakia provided material assistance and /or sent personnel to Vietnam. On many occasions, their people were even involved in combat against US forces.
What this piece proves once and for all was that Vietnam was not necessarily a Civil War, but rather another piece on the Cold War chessboard, with both West and East participating.
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Anyone who has actually read any of the extensive scholarly literature about the war that was readily available as the war was clearly building up in the early ’60’s would know of both the extensive commie support and the western support for either side. The war’s roots could have remained largly a civil one if all these other players did not want to grab a piece of the chessboard. During WWII the US had OSS agents fighting with Ho Chi Min’s forces against the Japanese and they knew that Ho’s ony real desire was for Vietnamese independance. There is extensive documentation to this end, but totally ignored because it didn’t fit the US’s chessboard.
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OK, HO wanted independence? Need a better definition there. Commies strike poses that belie the real facts. Some people did understand that. The thing is, they iterated the domino theory to a much larger extent than it should have been. But, if you want a perfect world…try out your particular heaven, there are so many descriptions of this unknown. But it is supposed to be perfect.
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From Pooh-Bear (what ever that means?) to bull-guy. Hey, I got a lot on my plate besides arm-chair refighting the history of the world, so this will probably be my last dispatch here. As I said elsewhere, I was in the USArmy reserves for 6 years, so I’d assume that we were both patriots. But I know that real history is pretty shitty, even ours. It sounds like you know very little about Uncle Ho’s actual history but it IS part of the real historical record. He went to the peace talks after WWI to plead for Viet independance but, as he was just some unknown colored subject of a French colony, he wasnt even given a hearing. He later worked for awhile in the US and admired our freedoms (even if we didnt practice them very well.) In WWII our OSS could see that independance (not freedom, independance) was more important to him than reliance on either Russia or traditional enemy China so he made open appeals to us to be backed by the US after the war. But us white guys wanted white-guy French back in control there. Like it or lump it, 60,000 of your American buddies got dead because of that. (With the eager help of Russia and traditional enemy China….playing chess with their blood.)
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Aw shucks, guess you got your Heaven messed with. Your blah-blah took the high road, eh? Your fact-less impression of history is a make-believe corruption that drives you to base acts. Come on, admit what you really did during Vietnam…right now there is one non-sequitur after another. Let’s hear the truth. From that far away place you are running to…in order to never again send missives here. But you will…
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Ho went to Truman to keep the French from coming back. Truman was friends with the French, so they were allowed to recolonize Vietnam.
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The French would not join NATO unless we would back them in Vietnam. basically The French Blackmailed the US in to it. Read your history I read about it before I went over in 65.
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Let’s see now…Ho killed millions of his own people plus those who did not think like him…just how could the French have equaled that killing spree…people should think before mouth-footing with gaping holes.
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Horrible news! I never heard of this.
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One would think Viet Nam would finally disclose all the info on the POW,s to bring closure and peace to the families. I remember working signet with RRU on the DMZ and along the trail having to listen and look for certain words indicating a POW capture back in 67 and 68. Memory has faded much though
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I’m a Vietnam Vet ‘68/‘69 MARINE Aviation DaNang. I had several high school friends died there. My brother and a cousin (MARINES) were there, they made it back. There’s a saying ‘Politicians talk and soldiers die’ Johnson and McNamara both should be dug up and their bodies should be taken to the dump, biden also.
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Jim. Thank you,sir, for your service! But neither you, nor the soldiers described in this article, should ever have been involved in Vietnam in the first place. Them secret Pentagon Papers, meant never to be seen in public, told about how US intelligence knew we could never win that war. But starting with Ike, who fully funded the French while they were still fighting there, started our path to lunacy. You are exposing your own personal agenda here by picking LBJ….and Biden!…to name as the villians. Liberal JFK, centerist (!) LBJ, and Conservative Nixon all contributed to the criminal affair by not wanting to be the first to “lose a country to the commies” even though they were told we could not win. And….was Biden even born yet? So instead of attacking the system, you pick and choose the bad guys. Why not just get around to mention Trump also, who attacked our own government with armed insurrectionists? Plenty ‘o the shit to go around. PS: I volunteered for 6 years of USArmy reserve duty from 1958 to 1964, discharged one year to the day before you Marines were dumped into the shit. I spent the rest of the war protesting to end it….
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Actually, it was the Roosevelt/Truman administrations which allowed the French and other European colonial powers to reassert control over their colonies at the end of the war. John Foster Dulles did not help matters when he became Secretary of State. Both these factors resulted in the French moving back into SE Asia which ultimately wound up with American troops replacing the French.
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Well, yeah, but I didnt want to refight all history back to pre-historic times. It was US foreign policy for years to support Western and our own colonialism. But then, thats just what all countries do, incuding Cuba. Its called history. I was only replying to Jim’s overreach by including….Biden!, in an article about Vietnam. Utimately, Vietnam used any help it could get after fighting for 1,000 years for its independance.
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Lots of loser smack and here no knowledge of history other than ignorance squared. Try getting a handle on you hideous emotions.
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As a reference…France left NATO in 66…
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Biden also? what about Nixon! Trump was a draft dodgeing rich boy that voted for war, doesn’t go to war. What the hell did Biden have to do with Nam. Try and pretend to know what you are talking about. What about Kissinger?
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