By William Broyles Jr., July 10, 2019
Fifty years ago, American troops began withdrawing, but tens of thousands were yet to die.
In the summer of 1969, the first American troops were withdrawn from Vietnam. Their war was over, but mine was just beginning. The previous November, Richard M. Nixon had been elected president with a “secret plan” to end the war. Surely peace was near. That same month I received my draft notice. About 24,000 of the more than 58,000 Americans killed in Vietnam were yet to die. I didn’t want to be one of them. No one did.
I had demonstrated against the war from the safety of my college deferment, so I thought of going to Canada. I also thought of getting a friendly doctor to say I had bone spurs or anxiety, but those choices would mean someone else from my refinery-town high school would have to go in my place.
By the time I arrived in Vietnam a year later, the rate of troop withdrawals had increased. But in Paris the peace talks were proceeding at a glacial speed. Hundreds of Americans and thousands of Vietnamese had died while the diplomats argued about the shape of the table. I was flown out to a platoon in the foothills of the Truong Son mountains, near where the Ho Chi Minh Trail fed North Vietnamese troops and supplies into the northern provinces of South Vietnam. We circled a blasted hilltop still smoldering from enemy mortars. Gaunt, tanned Marines in ragged fatigues moved slowly as they went about their morning rituals, heating C-ration meals and welcoming security teams back from their night positions.

Incoming troops at the Bien Hoa Air Base near Saigon. June 1969 Credit Jim Sterba/The New York Times
This was the Marines. These kids weren’t afraid of a fight. They would have stormed the beaches at Iwo Jima. They would have given their buddies the last drop of water and their last C-ration. They would go out under fire to bring a buddy back to safety. They would give their lives for one another. No hesitation. But would they give their lives for the diplomatic benefit of Nixon and Henry Kissinger? At the order of some hard-charging major safely back at base, who was making the most of a six-month combat posting to feather his résumé? We would die for one another, but we didn’t want to die for nothing.



President Richard M. Nixon and President Nguyen Van Thieu of South Vietnam reviewing the honor guard on Midway Island, where they announced American troop drawdowns. June 8, 1969. Credit Associated Press


More than 1,000 troops of the Third Marine Division stood in the rain waiting their turn to board the U.S.S. Iwo Jima to return to the United States. Oct. 6, 1969. Credit Bettmann/Getty Images

Looking for photos of their friends, Marines flipping through an issue of Life Magazine, which featured photos of those who had died in Vietnam. July 8, 1969.Credit Jim Sterba/The New York Times
I wished only that my own sons would not have to kill and die in such a senseless way. But after Sept. 11, my oldest son became a pararescueman, a Special Ops paramedic in the war we have been fighting for 18 years, as long as all of our 20-century wars combined. He was deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan, Djibouti, Uzbekistan and elsewhere. I alternated between great pride and helpless fury. I had cold sweats from thinking the car coming up the driveway was the casualty detail telling me that he had been killed. It was only then that I realized my own parents must have gone through the same thing.
We learn nothing.
This article originally appeared in the New York Times. Here’s the link: https://nyti.ms/2K4xU3L
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Those of us who served in Vietnam each have our own story , we each saw the war with different eyes. Mr. Boyles experience as a Marine 2nd Lt. grunt was much different than mine, an Army Warrant Officer helicopter pilot. Although I experienced combat, it was much different that what Boyles faced. The troops I served with were volunteers, they were better educated and were all trained in a technical skill. There’s an old saying, “Don’t judge a man till you’ve walked a mile in his shoes.” I spent two tours in Nam as a helicopter pilot – I was shot down three times, but never on the ground as a Marine Lt. grunt, so I will not judge him. What I will sat to him is, Welcome Home William Broyles Jr., Welcome Home.
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I couldn’t read all of this article. The writer should have gone to Canada like he was thinking. He put much thought into how he could get out of going to fight in Vietnam. The 2nd Louey thought very little of the men under his command. I would have hated to have a so called leader that thought the war was already lost. I guarantee that the men in Vietnam at the time wasn’t thinking the way this lieutenant did. I know, because I was there in 1970, for my 3rd tour of duty.
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Yup….
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I have a problem with the pictures attached to this article. Most are Army when the story is about Marines and the supposed picture of 1000 Marines boarding the USS Iwo Jima leaving Vietnam. If that was true why are none of the Marines wearing camo? I served with the 3rd in 69 (1/3/3) but was shipped home wounded in Aug before the 3rd left Nam, and I never seen any Marine wearing utility greens in Nam unless they were newly arrived.
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My impression of the pictures is that they were “set up” as being typical of the author’s view and maybe aren’t even anything he had chosen or was part of. Maybe he will respond.
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Totally biased bs with the only facts supporting his view
Ron B Vietnam 1968-69 Central Highlands
Secret Clearance.
Want a debate I’ll go eyeball to eyeball with you.
For example English is the 2nd language in all of Vietnam. Doesn’t sound like a loss to me!
We pulled out did not lose.
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Yes!
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As soon as someone mentions the thought of going to Canada, that person has lost me. Also, when they mention that it was “for nothing,” they have lost me for the second time. If it were possible to do so, how about asking the hundreds of thousands of women and children who were butchered by the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong if it was worth it. No disrespect for this Marine writer but this ’67-’68 Khe Sanh Marine has no time for the majority of his views. To disparage the Major as he did is despicable. I suspect the Major had his own prior experience as a combat officer and has earned his current position.
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Excellent rendition…I noted in my post the hubris of those who ran.
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Excellent rendition by Bob. I already have noted here the hubris of those who ran…
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I agree with you. He should have gone to Canada. I was with 3/26 Mike Company on Hill 881S during Tet 1968.
Semipermanent Fi
Ken Burns (Not the filmmaker)
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Only one question ,why didn’t you have Guts enough to go to Canada Oxford man . You DON’T seem to have a hell of a lot of regard for your fellow non Oxford man . I’M being careful with my words . You are a viet Nam brother , just wish you would act like it !
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I enjoyed the article very much and know the truth behind all you say in your post. I trained at Ft Dix NJ for Basic and AIT, transferred to Fort Benning GA and was a personnel specialist, Sent to Vietnam in March of 1968 and joined the USARV Headquarters on Long Binh Post in the G3 Section as an administrative aide. Waited for a top secret conformation for 6 weeks and then transferred to the G3 Campaigning Group. My entire stay in Vietnam was working on the logistics for the Phased Withdrawal of Troops and Equipment entering data to a computer on who what when and where were to leave first. It was a joint operation with CINCPAC, Marines, Air Force, and Navy. 1968, and I was held to secrecy and debriefed when I left to come home later in the year! It was hard to live with the fact that I knew firsthand that we were leaving!
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Mr. Hamblett. I am happy to hear that you lived well in the RVN. Please don’t lose any sleep over your knowledge of the withdrawal.
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This article hits home , as I arrived in Ben Hoa as a young staff sgt. starting my second tour.in Jan 1970, then on to Pleiku and the 604th Trans Co, 14th trans Bn.
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Should have gone to Canada,could have respected that !
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Did you know people who were draft dodgers? The one i knew in Berlin in 71 had a decided case of hubris. Very self involved. Then, when I was in Stockholm in Sept 68, I decided to look up the first 4 deserters who had gone from Japan to China, then Russia and ended up in Stockholm. I was there on my own, so I figured out the only way to get to them was through the Swedish Communist party. Which I did. A meeting was setup at the Galerie Gandolf. They were mainly interested if I would get a story out on them. I just wanted to see real deserters first hand. I would say they were akin to the Antifa people today for the long and the short of it.
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I met a draft dodger, his wife and son in Australia in 1970. They had a banana farm and he made sandals like the ones that he made in Old St. Augustine in Florida. They were nice people and were very happy. They returned to St. Augustine when amnesty was granted. He was not a deserter as he was neither drafted nor inducted.
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That is interesting in that he had money for a banana farm like immediately. That would be a more interesting to know why…I mean a kid fit for the draft does not usually have money for a farm of any type…and to leave for a far away place. And I know Australians fought along side Americans in the war. Well, he just was independently wealthy…
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Actually they received assistance from both of their families. BC’s father owned a gas station in St. Augustine and his wife’s family had a similar business. It did not require a lot of money to get along in the Surfer’s Paradise area of Australia. They rented the property. I have to commend them for doing what they did. When I came home I sent them the military uniforms, etc. that I brought home and they in turn sent me a pair of sandals and a koala bear plush toy that played ” Waltzing Matilda ” for my son. Prior to being drafted, I was working my way through school earning about a dollar an hour. Being around the Aussies and ex-patriots was so refreshing that I almost stayed there. I could have been a deserter. But, I was not. I completed my military commitment, in the bush, until our division stood down and then I went home – separated from the army. I still have nightmares concerning the lives that I took while fighting some one else’s war. I am glad that BC was spared that experience as well as his wife and child who would have been harmed by it, as well.
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Nice to get a response from you! Thank you!
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A bit on the nervous side and pessimistic of the very human occupation…war. it will not go away and one had better be ready for it at all times. That is…if you understand history and people. If you want a dream world, Barrie gave you Peter Pan, but even in his world, there was death.
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The war was not lost in 1969, but in 1973 and later when because of congress the South Vietnamese were unable to continue to sustain and fight their war. They ran out of ammo for artillery, fuel for aircraft etc. If all of you will remember because of the US congress, the US refused to ship ammo, fuel, repair parts and anything else to sustain their ability to survive. It was a political loss for all of us who served in RVN. I served because I was called. Canada or draft dodging was not an option. There were too many Hanoi Janes that helped us to lose. Many of theme served in congress.
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also Nixon delayed the peace talks by telling the north Vietnamese a better deal than the democrats
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Who cares which politician did what. They all created a loss for the South.
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Did you know any South Vietnamese soldiers?
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Not sure why you are asking but yes I knew some Vietnam soldiers. I was with the 240th Assault Helicopter Company out of Bearcat and one of my extra duties as an officer was to be the liaison for 5 South Vietnam pilots assigned to our unit. A great bunch to work with, in Vietnam their officers were usually from families of money or power.
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Yeah, they would have been moneyed to become flyers in Vietnam. But as for how the war ended, it left enough Vietnamese with…well, I was just recently talking with a Vietnamese girl, an immigrant to the US. Her reason to get out (she is 25) was the government, while allowing economic freedom of sorts is out of whack with the people. Which makes for a strange comparison, because that means we won in the end with out capitalism. And the so called Communism stays to form a neo-Nazi police state, although not as bad as China. Least-ways, I think.
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I was 1st Plt, A Co, 1st Bn, 26th Marines. I rotated 2/70. What Company were you with?
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I was an Army helicopter pilot. My first tour was deep in the Mekong delta with the 336th Assault Helicopter Company from July 1968 thru July 1969. My second tour was also in the Delta with the 18th CAC from Dec. 1971 thru Dec. 1972.
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Best Posting Yet!!!!!My experiences were similar to Mr. Broyles with the following exceptions: I am a few years younger and was drafted out of school because I allowed my hours to drop one quarter; I was drafted for two years and turned down everything that would have increased my commitment. I arrived in Vietnam in 1970, in time to participate in the Incursion into Cambodia with the First Cavalry Division. After a rather eventful ten months or so, I came home in April of 1971 when the Cav stood down. It hurt my father ( WWII Combat Vet ) when I left. Although my son was never in the military, he became a victim of the war on drugs. This may have been due to the effect that my PTSD has had on my friends and family. You are correct.
We will never learn!
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I feel like sometimes the writer was with me in Vietnam. I served in C 2/28 Ist Division 68/69. Thanks for writing and publishing them on the net for gives us Veterans the reassurance we aren’t the only ones that have these feelings, that you publish.
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When the writer used the words Canada, deferment, NY Times etc. I lost all interest in what he was about to write. After reading what he wrote, I saw a few key statements appealing to the masses with a whole lot of useless political drivel and unsupported stereotyping. Sorry, your choices of articles seem to attack the military with provide political slants, and I am proud to have served this country. Nothings perfect but I rest at night knowing I did what was asked of me as so many do, and I honor those who can’t.
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Thank you MR. Toops you are one of the few that knows what is going on in our country.
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