My friend, Jeffrey Fozard, sent this to me via email (originally by Paul Cotter) which I thought deserves a place on my website.
Penned by J.C. Pennington
As we get older and we experience the loss of old friends, we begin to realize that maybe we ten-foot tall, bulletproof Army aviators (and crew) won’t live forever. We aren’t so bulletproof anymore. We ponder… if I we’re gone tomorrow, “Did I say what I wanted to my Brothers?” The answer is “No!” Hence, the following random thoughts:
When people ask me if I miss flying, I always say something like, “Yes, I miss the flying because when you are flying, you are totally focused on the task at hand. It’s like nothing else you will ever do (almost). ” But then I always say, “However, I miss the unit and the guys even more than I miss the flying.”
Why, you might ask? They were a bunch of aggressive, wiseass, cocky, insulting, sarcastic bastards in smelly flight suits! They drank too much, they chased women, they flew when they shouldn’t, they laughed too loud and thought they owned the sky, the bar, and generally thought they could do everything better than the next guy. Nothing was funnier than trying to screw with a buddy and see how pissed off they would get. They flew helicopters that leaked, that bled RPM, that broke, that couldn’t hover, that burned fuel too fast, that never had all the radios and instruments working, and with systems that were archaic next to today’s new generation aircraft.
But a little closer look might show that every guy in the room was sneaky smart and damned competent and brutally handsome in his own way! They hated to lose or fail to accomplish the mission and seldom did. They were the laziest guys on the planet until challenged and then they would do anything to win.
I miss the call signs, nicknames and the stories behind them.
I miss getting lit up in an O’ or NCO’ Club full of my buddies and watching the incredible, unbelievable things that were happening. I miss the crew chiefs waiting as you got to your ship for a Zero-Dark:30 preflight. I miss pulling an armful of pitch, nosing it over and climbing into a new dawn. I miss going straight up and straight down. I miss the tension of wondering what today’s 12 hours of combat flying would bring. I miss the craps table in the corner of the O-Club and letting it ALL ride because money was meaningless. I miss listening to BS stories while drinking and laughing until my eyes watered. I miss three man lifts. I miss naps on the platoon hootch porch with a room full of aviators working up new tricks to torment the sleeper. I miss rolling in hot and watching my rockets hit EXACTLY where I was aiming.
Finally, I miss hearing In-Coming! called out at the bar and seeing and hearing a room full of men hit the deck with drinks spilling and chairs being knocked over as they rolled in the beer and kicked their legs in the air—followed closely by a Not Politically Correct Tap Dancing and Singing spectacle that couldn’t help but make you grin and order another round.
I am a lucky guy and have lived a great life!
We box out bad memories from various missions and events most of the time but never the hallowed memories of our fallen comrades. We are often amazed at how good war stories never let truth interfere and how they get better with age. We are lucky bastards to be able to walk into a reunion or a bar and have men we respect and love shout our names, our call signs, and know that this is truly where we belong.
We are ARMY AVIATORS and CREW MEMBERS. We are Few and we are Proud to have been one of the first combat helicopter FLIGHTS CREWS the world ever saw.
I am Privileged and Proud to call you Brothers. Clear Right! Clear Left! Pullin’ Pitch!
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J.C. you are spot on brother. However, you missed three characteristics of a good helicopter pilot: rude, obnoxious and disrespectful. We were all that you say and probably more (and to some extent, we still are). But we had a job to do and there was no one more important than those guys on the ground. And given the need, we would do it all over again. Welcome home brother.
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Pretty Much Right On! While I did not fly gunships, ARA, observation or spotter aircraft, I did get a lot of Huey time flying Medevac for the 15th Med Bn of the 1st Cav Div. I have nothing but admiration, praise, and love for my crews. They were all volunteers, as was I. Day after day I watched them working together to get the wounded aboard our aircraft even if it meant getting out of the ship and help the Medic in the recovery of the patients. Each had a bond that has not changed to this day. We have a reunion each year in a different city. If we picked you up in VN we would like to hear from you, as we were not formally introduced over there. We also have a Mini-reunion the second week end in August. You might want to come to this, as it is at the American Huey 369 Org. Museum at the old Grissium Air Force Base near Peru, Indiana. You can find out more about this at; http://www.americanhuey369.com. I have a special interest in this event in that they have the very same Huey that I flew in VN , MedEvac 803 in their museum . The good part is I get to fly her again. With my crews that come to the reunion. You can get rides in the Hueys if you want to (not a requirement though).
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“Herb”1967-1991 no breaks!
ARROGANT, LOUD MOUTH, INSOLENT, FABRICATING, MUSCLE BOUND, THICK HEADED, SUPER CHARGED, TESTOSTERONE OVER LOADED, BUNCH OF LIFE SAVING BASTARDS, THAT GOT YOUR SIX WHEN IT STARTED RAINING SHIT, YOU’LL ONLY FIND IN THE US MILITARY!
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, YOUR SUFFERING, YOUR BAD DAYS, AND YOUR GOOD DAYS! THANK YOU FOR A PLACE WHERE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS STILL TEACH ENGLISH AS THE PREDOMINATE LANGUAGE, AND “Nathan Hails” WORDS STILL RING IN OUR EARS! “I only regret that I have but one life to loose for my country” Perhaps you JAR HEADS YELLED JPJ’s “I have not yet begun to fight” Personally I liked “SHIT-HOOKS” & “DUST OFF !”
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Would do it again in a heartbeat…………….
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Loved it, I’m 70 this month April 2019 and can relate to your writing, we were a hellish bunch so young and so daring. My non-flying buds used to say “what the hell are you risking your life for”. Well it wasn’t for me I did 1048 flt hrs, it was for the ground pounder Marines and Army units we supported.
Semper Fi
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David Clayton, thank you sir. You guys got our asses out of more trouble than you know. We were so glad to hear that huey sound. I will never forget it as long as I live. Vietnam 1970-1971. 1st Brigade, 2nd Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. Sergeant, Artillery Forward Observer. God bless you pilots.
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your article was sent to me by a friend and I will be sure and thank him, great article about some very lucky young men. It flooded my mind with lots of similar memories . Richard T Musante USMC – VMO-3 crew chief RVN 67
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It is one of the best I have read. I was a gunner and had great pilots and great crew chiefs on my gunship , 65-66. One of the reasons why I work on my unit reunion every year, so I can get these guys together while we still csn
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Great article that brings back a lot of memories. Flew Huies first tour 1965 and just never could not forget the absolute joy. Hard to believe it was 54 years ago.
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All I can say! Awesome!
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Fabulous!!!
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Would the Powers to Be allow this article to be reprinted in the Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Newsletter?
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All True! The sentence for me is: “I miss rolling in hot and watching my rockets hit EXACTLY where I was aiming.”
Sidekick 2,
92nd AHC Gunship Platoon
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And we were so glad to see you guys. Being an Infantryman on the ground, in a firefight there was no greater site than hearing you guys come on station and then seeing your rockets and mini-guns pounding the hell out of those little bastards. Thank you sir!!!
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Ditto Mr. Chapman. The only reason for us to exist was for the “guy on the ground.” Alemaster,
129th AHC Gun Platoon
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And we on the ground appreciated every rocket fired, every strafing by mini-guns, every round of cannon fire, and every door gunnerfiring his M60. All of you made it possible for a lot of us to come home alive.
Thank you much
Rudy Hicks
9th Inf. Div.
68-69
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I never flew guns (OH-13 and Hueys) in “Nam,” but it is all so hauntingly familiar. It’s been nearly 50 years, since my tour and God bless, I miss it so.
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What year? I was in the 92nd 1970and 1971
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I am proud to have been part of the beginning of the air mobile generation. We’re didn’t start it, but we sure ushered it into today’s technology. The thousands of crew members in Vietnam built on the experience (good and bad) of previous crew members to become what Army Aviation is today.
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Excellent conveyance of the mental superiority and arrogance of army pilots. My dad was a retired W4 and worked for Air America until he was killed in 1969. The article was him speaking, hard drinking, handsome, charming, good dancer, humorous, you know the drill – zero defects.
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Speaking as a former doorgunner, I can only say that in my last novel, I tried to let the reader actually live the pilot’s experience. That I did it was perhaps best shown by the comment by the VHPA reviewer, who said he had to repeatedly remind himself that he wasn’t reading an autobiography (although I hope it turns out to be). https://www.amazon.com/Repeat-Love-Story-J-Kohler-ebook/dp/B01LZOJSN1
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Thank you. My father, Captain Ellis D. Greene was 227th AVBN, 1st Cavalry. He was KIA, 5/23/1970 in Cambodia. I was 6 months old when he died. Thank you for sharing some memories. If anyone wants to get in touch with me, feel free to contact me at 303.725.6317 or email me at aridenver@comcast.net.
Thank you,
Ari
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My respect to all you lucky bastards. I had the pleasure of learning to fly these things from many great Vietnam vets and will always cherish your courage, stories and talents.
Thank you all. Thanks for the article, well written.
I still miss flying these ladies even though it’s been 17 years since I retired. I will forever miss the helicopter and the great crews and crew chiefs that I flew with.
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Couldn’t have said it better. Did two tours in Vietnam !st Cav C/2/20th (B&C Hogs)and E Battery 82nd Arty (OH-13)first tour D/3/4Cav 25 Id (Cobras) and 117th AHC 1st AVn. Slick driver.
Drank too much cursed a bunch laughed when it wasn’t funny and Cried when it was. Dream about it to this day.
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i was with brty E 82arty in 69/70 door gunner crewchief on huey & loch
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Though I was a door gunner only about 1/2 dozen times, I often think about flying in our unit’s Huey.
To paraphrase a T-shirt I saw: Though I may be half-blind and half-deaf, I can still hear a Huey a couple of miles away. (When I do, I walk outside to take a look, too).
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This was well written about men we grunts really respected, held in high esteem, viewed as true heroes and seldom had the chance to meet.
So to all of you wop-wop pilots and crews please accept my deepest thanks for your heroic actions day after day. You all deserve the highest honors and respect.
Rudy Hicks
9th. I.D.
Vietnam 68-69
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LOL, we may not agree on much J.C. but this article you wrote is spot on IMHO.
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Took some wild rides with a couple of these crews. Superstars!
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When I first arrived at Pleiku (Dec 1968), if I remember correctly I was assigned with a Medivac (Dustoff) group from the 17th Air Calvary. I later joined my group (38th ARRS), and we moved to Da Nang. My flight commander with the 17th Air Calvary was a second deployment Warrant Officer nicknamed Wild Bill. I don’t remember his name now but remember he was the best pilots I flew with. He got us in and out places others avoided. I had at least two rescue missions with him and his team. I agree these Huey pilots were fantastic.
John, I give you kudos for keeping these stories and post alive. Thanks.
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This story of Army Helicopter Pilots and crewmen is spot on. As an 11bravo with the 1st Air Cav I can testify to their willingness to go in harms way. They were and still are the Best
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I am a crew chief. Will always be a crew chief. 176th AHC DUC PHO, CHU LAI “67”.One thing that bothered me about the article was the mention of drinking and going to the bar. While I’m sure many did, members of our company, pilots and crew did very little drinking during my time there. We flew 10 to 15 hours a day. I spent many nights pulling a PM on the engine deck by flashlight. Didn’t have much time to party. Otherwise, the article was pretty spot on.
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My references in the piece were to the pilot’s experience. After flying all day we went to the O Club and drank…almost all night. This piece has been on the Internet for years and along the way other people added things to it that I did not write or intend. My original made no reference to crewmen. Not because they weren’t important. They were. They saved my tail more times than I can count. But, their experience was not my experience and I was writing about my experience. Thanx for the comments. – jcp
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Remember it was written by a pilot, us Crewchief spent a many sleepless nights pulling pm so our bird was really to go in the morning
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Great article; thanks for med evacing me 24NOV70 and taking me to the 91st in Chu Lai
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You lunatics were the bravest people I knew. You saved our butts many times. Thank God for Chopper crews.
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Superb article and I totally relate to the writer’s words. I was fortunate to have survived Vietnam having flown as Dustoff22 for the 45th Med Co. covering much of III and IV Corps areas 7/67-7/68. The guys I flew with; pilots, crew chiefs, and medics, many have remained life-long friends whose friendship is second to none. I think the circumstances we faced forged a bond that few would understand.
I echo the praise for the Huey. Never let me down in the 23 years I was blessed to be able to fly it.
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Friends by chance…family by choice. Have 7 “ family” buddies that are like brothers and would go to any lengths to help out one another no matter what the circumstances. We may not connect often but when we do it is a family reunion like no other. So grateful to have these guys in my life almost 50 years later.
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These chopper pilots were the life savers to all. When we needed them you could just listen and here they came. My time as a crew cheif and gunner was rewarding. To this day if a huey is flying I can hear it and must go out to see it. All I can say is thank you from the bottom of my heart and God Bless you.
KEEP THEM FLYING
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Great article and great pictures. Here we go again in out hearts and minds more than 50 years later./Users/hughhartsell/Desktop/13319956_1548764625428477_6746648426031090830_n.jpg
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Great article and great pictures. Here we go again in out hearts and minds more than 50 years later./Users/hughhartsell/Desktop/13319956_1548764625428477_6746648426031090830_n.jpg/Users/hughhartsell/Desktop/12322762_1511410572497216_8479821379668034408_o 2.jpg
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Yeah we were all crazy at times flying best I enjoy being a flight engineer CH-47 66-77.
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Great article, well written. Did not know a lot chopper pilots in Nam but they flew over our compound, 1200 area at TSN. Heliport was right by the exchange. Would watch them come in at night at the helo pad for 3rd Field hospital. That meant needing a doc now. They helped get the job done!!
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I was a grunt with the 2nd Battalion 327th Infantry, 101st Airborne Division 70-71. I had a love/hate relationship with the Huey. They got me out of a lot of shit…but they also got me in to a lot. Love you guys. Could not have done it without you. Peace!!!
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Won’t ever forget those days & the guys I served with. There is no better acft than a Huey!!!
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An APC with crew mimics many of the same things/situations said. We went airmobile in the rainy season and drivers and 50 gunners were exempt if they chose to stay with the backups APCs. Most wentairmobile to stay with their brothers. The war was the same, but the means of getting to it remained a choice among some. All chose “ family” before anything . Thanks for the memories and welcome home brother. C co 2/47 mech Inf 9th ID. June 69-Aug 70 . 🇺🇸🙏✌️🙏🇺🇸
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Us grunts revered those wonderful men in their flying machines…many more names would be on the wall if not for their skill and bravery.
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