This story came to me anonymously via e-mail, the author, a fellow Vietnam Veteran. After reading his story, I felt compelled to share this with you on my blog. If you didn’t participate in the Vietnam war, this will give you some insight into how our minds work. He writes:
A couple of years ago someone asked me if I still thought about Vietnam. I nearly laughed in their face. How do you stop thinking about it? Every day for the past forty years, I wake up with it – I go to bed with it. This was my response:
“Yeah, I think about it. I can’t stop thinking about it. I never will. But, I’ve also learned to live with it. I’m comfortable with the memories. I’ve learned to stop trying to forget and learned instead to embrace it. It just doesn’t scare me anymore.”
A lot of my “brothers” haven’t been so lucky. For them the memories are too painful, their sense of loss too great. My sister told me of a friend she has whose husband was in the Nam. She asks this guy when he was there.
Here’s what he said, “Just last night.” It took my sister a while to figure out what he was talking about. JUST LAST NIGHT. Yeah, I was in the Nam. When? Just last night, before I went to sleep, on my way to work this morning, and over my lunch hour. Yeah, I was there.
My sister says I’m not the same brother who went to Vietnam. My wife says I won’t let people get close to me, not even her. They are probably both right. Ask a vet about making friends in Nam. It was risky. Why? Because we were in the business of death, and death was with us all the time. It wasn’t the death of, “If I die before I wake.” This was the real thing. The kind where boys scream for their mothers. The kind that lingers in your mind and becomes more real each time you cheat it. You don’t want to make a lot of friends when the possibility of dying is that real, that close. When you do, friends become a liability.
A guy named Bob Flanigan was my friend. Bob Flanigan is dead. I put him in a body bag one sunny day, April 29, 1969. We’d been talking, only a few minutes before he was shot, about what we were going to do when we got back to the world. Now, this was a guy who had come in country the same time as me. A guy who was loveable and generous. He had blue eyes and sandy blond hair.
When he talked, it was with a soft drawl. I loved this guy like the brother I never had. But, I screwed up. I got too close to him. I broke one of the unwritten rules of war. DON’T GET CLOSE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DIE. You hear vets use the term “buddy” when they refer to a guy they spent the war with. “Me and this buddy a mine.”
Friend sounds too intimate, doesn’t it? “Friend” calls up images of being close. If he’s a friend, then you are going to be hurt if he dies, and war hurts enough without adding to the pain. Get close; get hurt. It’s as simple as that. In war you learn to keep people at that distance my wife talks about. You become so good at it, that forty years after the war, you still do it without thinking. You won’t allow yourself to be vulnerable again.
My wife knows two people who can get into the soft spots inside me – my daughters. I know it bothers her that they can do this. It’s not that I don’t love my wife. I do. She’s put up with a lot from me. She’ll tell you that when she signed on for better or worse, she had no idea there was going to be so much of the latter. But with my daughters it’s different.
My girls are mine. They’ll always be my kids. Not marriage, not distance, not even death can change that. They are something on this earth that can never be taken away from me. I belong to them. Nothing can change that. I can have an ex-wife; but my girls can never have an ex-father. There’s the difference. I can still see the faces, though they all seem to have the same eyes. When I think of us, I always see a line of “dirty grunts” sitting on a paddy dike. We’re caught in the first gray silver between darkness and light. That first moment when we know we’ve survived another night, and the business of staying alive for one more day is about to begin. There was so much hope in that brief space of time. It’s what we used to pray for. “One more day, God. One more day.”
And I can hear our conversations as if they’d only just been spoken I still hear the way we sounded. The hard cynical jokes, our morbid senses of humor. We were scared to death of dying, and tried our best not to show it.
I recall the smells, too. Like the way cordite hangs on the air after a fire-fight. Or the pungent odor of rice paddy mud. So different from the black dirt of Iowa. The mud of Nam smells ancient, somehow. Like it’s always been there. And I’ll never forget the way blood smells, sticky and drying on my hands. I spent a long night that way once. That memory isn’t going anywhere.
I remember how the night jungle appears almost dreamlike as the pilot of a Cessna buzzes overhead, dropping parachute flares until morning. That artificial sun would flicker and make shadows run through the jungle. It was worse than not being able to see what was out there sometimes. I remember once looking at the man next to me as a flare floated overhead. The shadows around his eyes were so deep that it looked like his eyes were gone. I reached over and touched him on the arm; without looking at me he touched my
hand. “I know man. I know.” That’s what he said. It was a human moment. Two guys a long way from home and scared to death.
God, I loved those guys. I hurt every time one of them died. We all did. Despite our posturing. Despite our desire to stay disconnected, we couldn’t help ourselves. I know why Tim O’Brien writes his stories. I know what gives Bruce Weigle the words to create poems so honest I cry at their horrible beauty. It’s love. Love for those guys we shared the experience with.
We did our jobs like good soldiers, and we tried our best not to become as hard as our surroundings. You want to know what is frightening. It’s a nineteen-year-old-boy who’s had a sip of that power over life and death that war gives you. It’s a boy who, despite all the things he’s been taught, knows that he likes it. It’s a nineteen-year-old who’s just lost a friend, and is angry and scared and, determined that, “some *@#*s gonna pay”. To this day, the thought of that boy can wake me from a sound sleep and leave me staring at the ceiling.
As I write this, I have a picture in front of me. It’s of two young men. On their laps are tablets. One is smoking a cigarette. Both stare without expression at the camera. They’re writing letters. Staying in touch with places they would rather be. Places and people they hope to see again. The picture shares space in a frame with one of my wife. She doesn’t mind. She knows she’s been included in special company. She knows I’ll always love those guys who shared that part of my life, a part she never can. And she understands how I feel about the ones I know are out there yet. The ones who still answer the question, “When were you in Vietnam?”
“Hey, man. I was there just last night.”
So was I. How about the rest of you vets – hits home doesn’t it! Please leave a comment below and then tweet, Digg, etc. this article to others so they may understand why many of today’s veteran’s behave the way they do – be it Vietnam or other conflicts, this is a common thread shared by all.
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I have written a short story about coming home and the night I lost my Sentry Dog. Do you post them or know someone that could possibly publish it in something that are doing?
Bill
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Contact me at john.podlaski@gmail.com
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Arrived in country a light green came home dark and stayed that way for decades. Now the memories remain but most of the energy has faded. Still, there are moments …..
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3/25/67 1st Division 2nd Battalion 16th Infantry Rangers, 77 years young and the sounds, smells and sights still live, its hard to get close to anyone, the fear after 57 years is still there, you hit the nail on the head my brother, HOOAH
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I was reading it from Viet Nam, 1968 TET.
I can identify as many of us can. We’ll said.
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I was reading it from Viet Nam, 1968 TET.
I can identify as many of us can. We’ll said.
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Yes, all the time. The Army Surgeon, by the last name of Brown, operated on me for over eight hours, 49-units blood, to remove and repair damaged organs leaving large surgical scars on my chest, abdomen, right groin and legs. As a 19 year old on 4/9/67, the day I was showered with shrapnel, I encountered this surgeon who was truly ahead of his time. The Surgeon had written three letters to my wife in 4/1967, but not read by me until 20 plus years later. So in 1990, without the aid of Internet, I was able to locate Dr. Brown and communicated by phone and yearly via letters inside Christmas cards. On 12/20/22, 55-years after he saved my life in Vietnam, we met at my house. We cried, talked and laughed for over two hours as we explained stories of our time before, in and post Vietnam. His wife told me, I was the only person Dr. Brown ever opened up to about his time and experiences during his tour in Vietnam. Yes, one never forgets and telling our experiencing was the best healing power there was for this disabled Vietnam veteran. In May 2023, Dr. Brown died, five months after being reunited. The peace we experienced is difficult to explain but one which will always be with me until our final reunion takes place upon my passing.
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wha
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what a blessing to have reunited with Dr. BROWN . A true gift from God thank you for your service and I am glad you found that Peace. Your story brought tears to my eyes. God bless you.
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Thank you for posting this article! I am the daughter of a Nam veteran. I’ve wanted for years to ask my dad about his experiences, but I was afraid to bring it up because I didn’t want to remind him of the horrible things he lived through. Reading your article has helped me find the courage to open the subject and listen to whatever my dad wants to share. I love him in ways that only a daughter can love her dad! Thank you so much for sharing your story!
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Me too and it will be something that will open your eyes and heart to love him a million more times more than you did before. My father is now a whole new being post my hearing him speak of his experiences. Be warned the pain in his eyes will tio your soul apart but humanize him in ways that will change you forever
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*rip
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Ask NOW don’t wait
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You have said it all buddy lost my room mate you never forget in 72
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I read it once and just read it again. This time sending it a buddy. Boots on the ground for 8 months. Ets home oct 3 1970. My guess is we’ll never let it go. So this i can understand. Great read. Good job. God bless
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When I arrived to C Troop 3/4 Cav in Pleiku in 1966 I was assigned to a Mortar equipped APC. The first thing the commander of the track told me was not to make friends. Two reasons first being they might be rotating out of Country or they might going out in a body bag . So mostly it was first names or Buddy. Sleep! Between the noise of outgoing or incoming rounds and guard duty there wasn’t much sleep. 57 years later the memories are still with me.
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I was never in country, I was on board ship cruising on yankee station and up and down the Saigon River dropping percussion grenades because the cong underwater teams are trying to plant mines on ships hulls. 18 year old kids believe everything officers say. When the guns are firing you try to hide and hang on to something and scream and you can’t hear your self. These guns are 5 inch 38’s, twin mounts, fore & aft. When I hear a siren or attend a parade with all the cops and fire trucks, I try not to freak because my granddaughters are there, so I turn my back and cry; but I stand at attention and salute the stars and stripes as it passes by and I cry openly. My wife worked at local VA Hospital so she understands.
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Cannot wait to share with my friend…at 74, every morning @ 4:30 he knocks out 5 miles. When he was 69 I told my Dad that he was run ing every morning at the Park. Dad told me that Frank was cheating! Dad said the damn Army taught him to run in RECON!
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Every word of truth
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I was drafted in 1965 and luckily stayed in the USA, but I can feel the pain of those who put their life on the line. Of course the big picture question is: WHY WERE WE EVEN THERE????
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Those who were their, called it the Johnson Kennedy Money War! Brown and Root (Now called Halliburton) from Huston, Texas had all the building contracts for Southeast Asia. Who do you think build all major bases in Viet Nam? Who made millions selling war supplies? To me, DAMN DRUG DEALING DEMOCRACTS.
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vietnam-war-for-political-gainand-johnson-knew-about-it-newly-unclassified-tapes-suggest-3595441/ Both parties used our warriors like political pawns to further their political gains and to savor that exhilarating elixir called power…..
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Thank you. I was not in Nam. But I have and had people that were. This helps me understand just a little.
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First, thank you all for your service. I lived as a growing teenager when all three of my brothers went into the service. My oldest to Vietnam. He is not the same he is and always be my hero, just like my dad an my other two brothers. I won that lottery my number was to high to go. Believe me it’s like I lived that war watching everyday hoping that my brother would come home. I love you guys and will always remember that war. TMB
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This was a great story and should be ready by anyone that stayed home. Thank you for writing and posting.
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I was in the 101st and received orders to go to 173rd. While I was home on leave to go to Okinawa the 173rd was sent to Viet Nam. I was young and stupid. I couldn’t believe that our government would trade lives for money! But, money won out. Politicians made millions and we were KIA, MIA, or so screwed up we couldn’t adjust. This the first time in almost 60 years that I truly enjoyed Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years. Without wanting to be island all by myself or go ahead and kill myself. I couldn’t show my kids love and now their not close to me! Always Remember: GOD LOVES YOU AND ME!!!
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Thank you for your service
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Well said Sir. I was 20 years old when I made the journey to the Nam. While I had a pretty decent duty assignment, I was somewhat of a daredevil and volunteered often to fly with our WO’s on various missions. Fortunately I made it home in one piece by the Grace of God but like you, I relive it every day. God bless you for your service to America and “Welcome Home Brother”.
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USMC. Post Nam. I employed a Nam ranger, motorcycles. He never got over it. But my work provided enuff distraction I think. Good man, big heart.
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I think you nailed it. I think you found the words and said it so people may understand better. I was a grunt in the 101st in 70/71. Welcome home.
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So so True!
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Touches me in ways I thought i could put in the back of my mind.
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So true. No one can understand unless they were there
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I served 3 tours in Iraq and 2 in the balkans. First article I have seen that sums up my feelings thanks
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No words! The author nails it with such a powerful vivid description. Did I say powerful? Welcome Home, Sir. Wish you were my neighbor so I could ask questions to comfort me. Your duty was obviously not a picnic. I was so lucky as the ROK Marines did their best to protect me. If the English speaker radioman was dead so was their contact with English speaking support. Be it a medivac, artillery, resupply, air support or naval gun fire. I was somewhat integral. Somewhat.
Sir, your description fleshes out what thousands went through and daily live through. Hats off and I genuflect, as I make the sign of the cross on my heart. Powerful, so powerful. Hollyweird can’t hold a candle to your words. Write a movie script Sir, it’s one I’d gladly pay to see. (personally don’t watch or purchase their shallow tripe and yeah friends and family don’t “get it” why I refuse. I did enjoy Full Metal Jacket as it spoke truth to me. Lee Ermey as the Gunny. Yeah, hollyweird snuck their nonsense in.) Your words are truth plain and simple not clouded with a political bent. It is so obvious you lived it and I suspect you still do.
It makes me wonder what my Father had running on repeat in his head daily. Dad was a Marine in the South Pacific and did the island hopping war. He was wounded on Iwo Jima 3-4-45 and almost lost his leg. The Man never, never spoke (only once about the prisoner that had been interrogated always responding, “No Savvy, No Savvy”. Put him in behind the concertina wire and he asks, “where warm chow”. Dad says Gunny grabbed a BAR and dispatched him. Only story he shared but I knew not to push him for more. I can’t imagine.
I know there are others Veterans of war that have these terror filled moments playing in their head daily. When I meet another Vet I let them speak first hoping they’ll share their trials, mine are minuscule compared to the real Hero’s walking amongst us, quietly.
Again Sir, I pay you Homage. This tale needs to be posted on the front page of every newspaper nationwide on VETERANS DAY. Blasted on every news channel, radio and television. Put in the public’s eye. Let the public know what a lot of Nam Vets lived and still have on repeat in the heads.
We, Nam Vet’s, didn’t ask for it. We did our “job” with Valor and Dedication as best we could. Plain and simple wanted to survive, get Home and put it behind (impossible I now know) us.
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I want to have empathy for you and other Nam veterans but it’s something I can’t fathom. My heart feels for your pain and loss. I wish I could make it better but not sure how except to listen. Thank you and God Bless you .
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Right to the point
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Thank you for this article,I am an 88 year old British Veteran.What a wonderful piece of reality.I was in Malaya during the 1950’s,nothing like the war in Vietnam,but plenty of jungle and slogging to do looking for CT’s.God Bless and thank all who served there.
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I feel it..it hurts..don’t talk about it much..thanks.
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I keep trying to forget what I did as a 19 year old but it comes back most nights. There is no one who can forgive me. The PTSD counselor only made it worse. The guy wanted me to tell my 4 daughters what I did over there. He’ll it took me 40 years to tell my wife. I guess some things are better left unsaid.
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I grew up in Bangkok and saw alot of soldiers when they came there on R&R. I will NEVER forget the look on their faces, that deep hollow distant look. These guys were 18, 19 years old, I was 16, couldn’t fathom what it was like being in the shit, then I enlisted in the Air Force when I was 19 and through circumstance got a taste, just a taste. GOD BLESS THEM!
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I didn’t go to Vietnam because I was abused and discriminated by pregedust whites before I got sent.
I was trained as one of the first U9 mechanic buy was forced out of Army aviation because no one wanted to fly on an airplane as bigger worked on, especially the 1st Signal group of Strat com. Fort Huachuca Arizona 1968.
I have sense spent 15 years in South East Asia resently on the Mekong Delta with my long time Cambodian sugnificant other.
At onetime I took an old rice boat down the Mekong in Lao. The people were very friendly and I felt like sending a message to a good veteran friend.
I said, what did you do to piss these people of they are friendly as hell.
He never answered.
Now that I have lived in a village on the delta and been in the rice patties and the jungle I thank God thhose racist white boys ran me out of the Army.
I got a Undesirable 212
under less than honorable conditions because I went AWOL and joined the anti war movement.
It was totally unfair because I was abused and treated horribly by white boys right here in the states and thought what the hell would it be like in Nam whith those assholes.
Anyway after trying to get my discharge up graded the VA treated me worse than the abusers did in 68.
So now I feel so sorry for the black brothers who died terrified and alone in the racist Army in the jungles and rice patties on Vietnam and all over South East Asia.
Personally I so glad for my UD 212 and have no regrets for going AWOL.
I kept my sanity do to the most part an my PTSD is nothing like what I’ve seen others go through be fore they killed themselves to end the torment of being dissed by the VA and their communities for being crazy when they got home.
Actually I think God was looking out for me, especially seening how things are turning out in the USA for black and brown folks.
I now live permeantly in South East Asia with some of the most loving and caring people in the world.
Thank God I got out of the era with half of my sanity.
Vets I hear you and I think I understand how used you feel.
God bless you and I hope you get some peaceful sleep before you die!!!
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So lm not alone, Love you brother
Welcome Home
A Grunt 68-71 1st Cav
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Simple and powerful. I will share.
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God bless all
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Thank you for sharing. I knew a few guys that went to Nam. They were K9 handlers and I always wondered if they made it back. Wish there was a list of K9 guys. I remember 2 first names and where they were from but that’s it.
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Great reading, tears of love and joy and hurts. Also there
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I did not serve in the Active Military – I was an Army Reservist from June ’69. I was a VERY lucky guy; I enlisted in my unit on 10Jun 69 – 2 days before my Draft Notice arrived in the mail.
I did Basic and AIT at Fort Jackson from November ’69 to March ’70. The fact that basic was comprised of Enlistees, Draftees, Reservists and National Guardsmen did not surprise me, having been advised of this by guys in my Reserve unit. I knew that in 4 short months I would be going home. My mantra was to maintain as low a profile as possible, keep my mouth shut and do my time. It truly embarrassed me how many Reservists and Guardsmen bitched an moaned during their short time while so many others were destined for NAM.
Basic brought the reality of NAM to light for me, especially at the end when the the ER’s and RA’s were given their MOS assignments – so many 11B’s. That is when I realized how truly fortunate I was…I could have been one of them.
I felt GUILTY of this, as if I had somehow cheated the system. And to this day I still have my moments when the “what ifs” creep into my mind.
That being said, I can’t even imagine what you NAM Vets are still dealing with – 50+ years later. You guys were dealt a bad hand and I feel for you,
Thank you for all that you have given – your sacrifice is not lost on me.
God BLESS all of you!
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My heart breaks for all of you. Both my dad and stepdad are Vietnam veterans. I have seen the hurt in their eyes and dealt with the flashbacks they endured. Never forget. You are not alone in your battles. I may not be able to “fix” the problem, but I can promise you won’t go through it alone. God bless each and every one of you.
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Very much too the point think of the times of our love one’s being far way in their minds but are at home. My father didn’t want go too war but I would have gone anyways. My father served in World War II stuff that he had seen he never talked about until the end of his lifetime he didn’t want me to go I guess because he thought I would die but like every American I would have took them bastards with me I meant the enemy but Wars something you don’t want to talk about
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This is a beautiful story to share about an unthinkably tragic time. It helped me to better understand what my late husband went through, and why he was so different when he returned home to me.
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All those thoughts especially the caution we were given during combat training as Navy Hospital Corpsman going the the Nam as combat medics with the 3rd Marine Regiment that we should not get close to our marines because when we have to wrap them in a poncho and load into a Ch 46 on their way to a burial at home it would limit our effectiveness emotionally. Yes I was just there tears streaming down my face, stopping to wipe them so I can finish this sentence. Their faces etched or burned into my memory the reason I’ve never been able to visit the memorial in DC but at 76 I’ve promised myself this year I will despite the knowledge that the tears will flow and the memories will be painful. I feel I owe my compatriots a visit and a thank you, we’re it not for their protection I wouldn’t be here to write these words through my tears.
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Sir thank you for all you did. hope you do make it to DC it will give you peace thought it will hurt It is OK for a man to cry and be a human being
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