Credit: Capt. Marshal Hanson, USNR (Ret.) and Capt. Scott Beaton, Statistical Source
Myth: Common belief is that most Vietnam veterans were drafted.
Fact: 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers. 2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. Approximately 70% of those killed in Vietnam were volunteers.
Myth: Common belief is that a disproportionate number of blacks were killed in the Vietnam War.
Fact: 86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races. Sociologists Charles C. Moskos and John Sibley Butler, in their recently published book “All That We Can Be,” said they analyzed the claim that blacks were used like cannon fodder during Vietnam “and can report definitely that this charge is untrue. Black fatalities amounted to 12 percent of all Americans killed in Southeast Asia, a figure proportional to the number of blacks in the U.S. population at the time and slightly lower than the proportion of blacks in the Army at the close of the war.”
Myth: Common belief is that the war was fought largely by the poor and uneducated.
Fact: Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better.
Myth: The common belief is the average age of an infantryman fighting in Vietnam was 19.
Fact: Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age.
Myth: The common belief is that the domino theory was proved false.
Fact: The domino theory was accurate. The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand stayed free of Communism because of the U.S. commitment to Vietnam. The Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America’s commitment in Vietnam. Without that commitment, Communism would have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits that is south of Singapore and of great strategic importance to the free world. If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war in Vietnam, they have a different opinion from the American news media. The Vietnam War was the turning point for Communism.
Myth: The North Vietnamese Were a Poorly Equipped Guerrilla Force
Fact: You’ll see this one in any decent Vietnam movie: While the Americans are surrounded by an obscene amount of weaponry, equipment, and prominently positioned crates of Coca-Cola, their enemies appear to be running an entire war with nothing more than improvised booby traps and some snazzy bandannas. Some of them had AK-47s they kept stashed under their mud huts. The implication is clear: The communist forces were a poorly armed, untrained bunch of ragtag misfits who managed to win a war through sheer determination and familiarity with the local flora.
The North Vietnamese may have used guerrilla tactics to their advantage, but that doesn’t mean they were poorly trained or equipped. We’ve mentioned the North’s badass air force before, and the Soviets supplied Hanoi with tanks, anti-aircraft guns, and heavy artillery. In fact, the equipment the Soviets were sending them was so good that they had to stop shipping it through China because the Chinese kept swiping it. And despite supposedly being an independent group, the guerrillas in the South were fairly well-integrated into the regular North Vietnamese forces and could expect at least some training before seeing combat.
Perhaps most important were those AK-47s we mentioned. These guns are so ubiquitous as the “poor terrorist” weapon in action movies that it’s easy to forget that at the time they were absolutely state-of-the-art and superior to anything the Americans were carrying. Meanwhile, the bulk of South Vietnamese forces fighting alongside the Americans were stuck using ancient World War II-era M-1 rifles up until the 1970s. To make things worse, the M-1 had been designed for use by Americans, who tended to be much taller and bulkier than your average Vietnamese — meaning that they were too long and unwieldy for South Vietnamese soldiers to carry easily, let alone, you know, aim.
As for the Americans, they hurriedly switched guns mid-war, to the new M-16. It, unfortunately, was a bug-ridden mess at the time and had a tendency to jam under combat conditions (up to 80 percent of U.S. troops in Vietnam experienced a jam while firing, which can apparently be sort of awkward when you’ve just charged into an NLF tunnel complex screeching a war cry). There was actually a congressional investigation into the American M-16 to find out why it sucked so much.
Myth: The common belief is that the fighting in Vietnam was not as intense as in World War II.
Fact: The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served. Although the percent that died is similar to other wars, amputations or crippling wounds were 300 percent higher than in World War II. 75,000 Vietnam veterans are severely disabled. MEDEVAC helicopters flew nearly 500,000 missions. Over 900,000 patients were airlifted (nearly half were American). The average time lapse between wounding to hospitalization was less than one hour. As a result, less than one percent of all Americans wounded, who survived the first 24 hours, died. The helicopter provided unprecedented mobility. Without the helicopter it would have taken three times as many troops to secure the 800 mile border with Cambodia and Laos (the politicians thought the Geneva Conventions of 1954 and the Geneva Accords or 1962 would secure the border).
Myth: Kim Phuc, the little nine year old Vietnamese girl running naked from the napalm strike near Trang Bang on 8 June 1972 (shown a million times on American television) was burned by Americans bombing Trang Bang.
Fact: No American had involvement in this incident near Trang Bang that burned Phan Thi Kim Phuc. The planes doing the bombing near the village were VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. The Vietnamese pilot who dropped the napalm in error is currently living in the United States. Even the AP photographer, Nick Ut, who took the picture, was Vietnamese. The incident in the photo took place on the second day of a three day battle between the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) who were trying to force the NVA out of the village. Recent reports in the news media that an American commander ordered the air strike that burned Kim Phuc are incorrect. There were no Americans involved in any capacity. “We (Americans) had nothcling to do with controlling VNAF,” according to Lieutenant General (Ret) James F. Hollingsworth, the Commanding General of TRAC at that time. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of Kim Phuc’s brothers were killed in this incident. They were Kim’s cousins not her brothers.
Myth: American soldiers killed innocent civilians including women and children during the Vietnam War.
Fact: Isolated atrocities committed by American Soldiers produced torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. – Nixon Presidential Papers.
Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam.
Fact: The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years AFTER the American military left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973.
How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of U.S. forces, limitation of both sides’ forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, NOT American military running for their lives. There were almost twice as many casualties in Southeast Asia (primarily Cambodia) the first two years after the fall of Saigon in 1975 than there were during the ten years the U.S. was involved in Vietnam. Thanks for the perceived loss and the countless assassinations and torture visited upon Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians goes mainly to the American media and their undying support-by-misrepresentation of the anti-War movement in the United States.
As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S. forces. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is considered by some as ranking with Wellington, Grant, Lee and MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements in South Vietnam. The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only one front and that was the News front and the political arena. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth. However, inaccurately reported, the News Media made the Tet Offensive famous.
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It was nice to hear the soldier’s side of life in the war.
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Very good analysis. Especially on the assistance that China and the Soviets gave to North Vietnam. What needs to be added is that more than any nation, it was China that gave the the greatest amount of material aid to North Vietnam . And was also a co-belligerent. For instance, China depleted its own arsenals of Type 56 rifles ( Chinese version AK-47.) to supply the NVA and VC. Mao not only assisted North Vietnam with arms, but men as well. Between 1965 and 1969, China deployed over 100000 troops to North Vietnam, mostly anti aircraft batteries and combat engineers. During Operation Rolling Thunder, over 1/3 of AAA batteries in North Vietnam were manned by Chinese troops.
One of the most well kept secrets of the war.
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Phil. everything is your post is easily. I guess you skipped any kind of training on statistical analysis.
“Recruits in the 1960’s were among the least productive members of society. More individuals joined the military than were drafted because they lacked skills and were unemployable as civilians.” This is nonsense. Why – the average age of a soldier in Vietnam was 22, hardly an age when young men were “productive” Another point, perhaps you or those you knew had access to lots of civilians, I know I didn’t, I had to fight PAVN regulars and where I “worked” civilians were in short supply. Were civilians killed? Yes, they were but your assertion just recreates an old myth and just makes you sound foolish.
BTW, no one said MGR. Probably some made up strap term. Do you know what a “strap” is Phil? Someone who just hangs around. They were like the REMF’s and the ever courageous “chairborne”
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What does “MGR” mean in Gi talk? It was left out of the “Military Slang During The Vietnam War” glossary included in this website. How and when was it used?
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Phil Lombardo, I’ve received over a thousand responses from Vietnam Vets who’s service spanned all the years of the war, served in units that operated in all four corps of Vietnam, all branches of service and including veterans who were on active duty into the 1980’s. Not one of them had heard of the acronym “MGR” or remember being trained to violate our rules of engagement during the war.
As for your earlier comment regarding the article dispelling myths being a whitewash, I thoroughly disagree with your assessment and suggest you stop reading Left Wing literature and believing that their information are the facts…they try to twist the truth to their benefit – hence your understanding of the war. All the items in this article were verified to be true on the website: “Truth or Fiction”.
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“Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences.”
Few Americans faced charges for the atrocities they committed during the conflict, and those who did receive prison sentences often had them commuted.
This page is a whitewash of the facts. Everything on the page is easily disputable. For example, the author states that U.S. soldiers who fought in Vietnam were better educated than prior U.S. forces, and that 79% completed high school. While this is a true statement, it is incomplete and contributes to a lack of understanding. The problem with the statement is that it doesn’t include a comparison of the U.S. soldiers’ educational level to that of the general U.S. population from which they came. More U.S. citizens graduated from high school in the 1960’s than ever before. Recruits in the 1960’s were among the least productive members of society. More individuals joined the military than were drafted because they lacked skills and were unemployable as civilians.
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Phil, “MGR” is a term used in Nick Turse’s book,”Kill anything that moves”, a term he identified as “Mere Gook Rule”. This acronym was supposedly used to demean Vietnamese civilians as subhuman and unimportant – Gooks to be killed at will.
This is the first time that I’ve heard this term and feel that if it was used, it was an acronym fabricated in either Mr. Turse’s unit or for his book. I will ask around in my various FB groups to see who else recalls this term. / John
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I dont like it
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it sounds accurate, it helps me with closure of the war !!
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